So does crisis and catastrophe and who is to say that is not also enligtenment as much as a "spiritual awakening". Really, it is about a new vision.
On Jul 30, 4:43 am, Allan Heretic <[email protected]> wrote: > I know the feeling paradox, been there.. Jo. There are always people who > will not accept the experiences of others. The happen, they change your life.. > Allan > > Allan > > On 29 jul. 2011, at 22:33, Jo <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > No. It's random and has only happened 3 times. I do not meditate or > > even seek spiritual enlightenment. I'm just living my life like > > everyone else. > > > On Jul 29, 2:47 pm, paradox <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Jo, i dont doubt that there might be a divine or metaphysical source > >> of that special sense of cognitive "connectedness", i wish we all had > >> that more often too. Do you reflect on where you are in your personal > >> life, within yourself and your relationships, at times when you feel > >> that special sense? > > >> On Jul 29, 3:37 pm, Jo <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>> There have been times in my life when every fiber of my being felt > >>> open and aware of everything in my surroundings, their purpose and > >>> origins. Aware of people and their complexities. When everything > >>> suddenly made sense and I felt as if I were tapped into..... > >>> something. The source? The Universe? God? I don't know. I just know > >>> that these moments don't last near as long as I would like. I wish I > >>> could make them happen more often but I can't. And I don't feel that > >>> there is a Will behind this source. The only Will I sense is my own. > >>> So I'm very thankful to what ever it is that powers my being. I make > >>> it a point to express my gratitude several times a day. > > >>> On Jul 28, 4:50 pm, paradox <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>> Interesting Jo; how do you imagine our connection to this higher > >>>> power? > > >>>> On Jul 28, 5:53 pm, Jo <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>> We never went church while I was growing up. However, I do believe > >>>>> that a higher power does exist. I also believe that we are somehow > >>>>> connected to it. Worship for me has always been about giving thanks > >>>>> and counting my blessings. > > >>>>> On Jul 27, 8:25 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>>> If we are completely bound by the will of God it follows that > >>>>>> everything is done by God , and hence it is God who would be > >>>>>> worshiping God which to me appears ridiculous. If you believe yourself > >>>>>> to be an emanation of God and completely controlled by Him it would be > >>>>>> lack of wisdom to worship Him. God is our innermost being and is not > >>>>>> separate from us , but you can only worship someone separate from you > >>>>>> which is inconsistent with our belief that God is our essence. Either > >>>>>> believe God to be separate from you , in which case it would be proper > >>>>>> to worship Him like loving someone , or believe Him to be your Being > >>>>>> and hence act with an attitude of equality to all and looking at > >>>>>> everyone animate or inanimate with an equal eye. As for reaching a > >>>>>> state of calmness and peace I am far from it but it is my resolve to > >>>>>> be so. > > >>>>>> On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 3:59 AM, Menfranco Laws <[email protected]> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> I see what you mean and I believe that you have reached a stage of > >>>>>>> calmness and peace, otherwise you would not have written what you have > >>>>>>> written about we all being part of God in this thread. But I would > >>>>>>> like to ask you a question to your statement where you say that there > >>>>>>> is no wisdom in worshipping our creator; my objection to that is that > >>>>>>> I believe that man needs to pray God, so that they may feel protected > >>>>>>> from God; I believe that it is one of the needs and the reason why we > >>>>>>> have religions? > > >>>>>>> On Jul 26, 4:35 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>>> I do not say that I have reached a peaceful state , I only say that > >>>>>>>> on > >>>>>>>> gaining knowledge of the Truth one should strive to reach a state of > >>>>>>>> calmness and peace. By Knowledge I mean a logical conclusion about > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> nature of Reality and not any transcendental experience. > > >>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Menfranco Laws > >>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> Hi, RP Singh; These are indeed words of wisdom when you say: What I > >>>>>>>>> feel, think and do is totally bound by the spirit within me and the > >>>>>>>>> same is true for everyone else; but then, you assume that you are > >>>>>>>>> part > >>>>>>>>> of God and therefore everybody should be or feel that they are part > >>>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>>> God, so in reality you are saying that God is pandemic in nature and > >>>>>>>>> we live within God life force, am I right? > >>>>>>>>> But, I have to say that not everybody has reached this peaceful > >>>>>>>>> feeling within them selves that you have achieved, I believe that > >>>>>>>>> you > >>>>>>>>> are one of the few that has this feeling about being part of God and > >>>>>>>>> you are blessed, the rest of us just think that we may not be worthy > >>>>>>>>> enough of being part of God, therefore during our lives we are > >>>>>>>>> trying > >>>>>>>>> to achieve what you have achieved for yourself and we hope to > >>>>>>>>> understand you fully when we reach our goal. > >>>>>>>>> I wish you all the best > >>>>>>>>> Menfranco > > >>>>>>>>> On Jul 24, 6:25 am, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> What I feel , think and do is totally bound by the spirit within me > >>>>>>>>>> and the same is true for everyone else. So , if I think of God > >>>>>>>>>> separate from me I am thinking wrongly ; as our innermost being is > >>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>> same in all and all of us follow his dictates totally there is no > >>>>>>>>>> wisdom in worshiping our creator as albeit we are Him. It is > >>>>>>>>>> ignorance to worship yourself. God is in all and it is God who does > >>>>>>>>>> everything as all our bound totally by Him. We should have a > >>>>>>>>>> feeling > >>>>>>>>>> of love for all as essentially we are one and not harbour enemity > >>>>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>>> those of us who are ignorant of the Truth and enjoy hurting others. > >>>>>>>>>> When a person knows that all are One then he attains a state of > >>>>>>>>>> calmness and if not he should try to achieve that peaceful state. > >>>>>>>>>> But > >>>>>>>>>> of course we cannot cut the ties that bind us through this body and > >>>>>>>>>> have a practical outlook.- Hide quoted text - > > >>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > >>>>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > >>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
