What is needed is a common stabilizing foundation. That has lasted over time. 
The foundation of the commune to work becomes al important , that is if you 
want it to last, especially in today's world.
Then the question becomes. What foundation would you base a commune to last, 
say four generations.
Allan

On 4 aug. 2011, at 23:03, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> wrote:

> Naaa I can't agree with that mate.  If anything, or maybe at least
> here in the UK, religion is becomeing less and less of an issue.
> Atheisim is now the norm.
> 
> On Aug 4, 8:57 pm, allan deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:> well
> I agree with you orn    I think something new  is on its way,,
> probably
>> form of a commune.. probably religious based,, but teligion will have to
>> change first to avoid  being abused
>> Allan
>> 
>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 8:00 PM, ornamentalmind
>> <[email protected]>wrote:
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>>> Yes, in ‘my day’, everyone learned music, art etc. And, paradox, it is
>>> more than opinion that the arts are of great value when it comes to
>>> IQ, productivity and many other benchmarks. The web is full of such
>>> studies.
>> 
>>> Here is where the actual crime against us all is found in defunding
>>> public education. This was not an accident either…starting with
>>> Reagan. Of course, if one actually is amongst the elite, it is quite
>>> easy to blame the victims and suggest that they ‘eat cake’ and need to
>>> ask for less and give public money to privatization.
>> 
>>> On Aug 4, 8:21 am, paradox <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Yeah, quite right Rigsy; as with all art forms, it's what we make it.
>>>> Funny image of Strauss there; i imagine him, head buried in his
>>>> manuscripts, wife berating him for paying her as little attention as
>>>> he possibly can, the poor chap thinking..."well, someone's gonna have
>>>> to pay for this assault! Dont know why i pay the damn orchestra
>>>> anything, they cant play 5 beats on a drum!" Lol.
>> 
>>>> I know, i feel the same as you on public funding for the musical arts;
>>>> i think the liberating effects of (much) music on cognitive
>>>> development is still too poorly understood and undervalued; i do know
>>>> that i'm quite biased in that view though.
>> 
>>>> On Aug 4, 1:25 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>>>> Music is also a political, military, cultural tool. Richard Strauss is
>>>>> fantastic but associated with Nazis, henpecked by his wife and stingy
>>>>> with his orchestra- even cheating them. The eye and ear directly
>>>>> affect the brain in proportion to sensitivity or understanding so some
>>>>> seem immune to the effects which are tuned out. It is a shame that
>>>>> public education has cut music and art from the curriculum.
>> 
>>>>> On Jun 29, 11:32 am, paradox <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>>>>> Today, i found myself completely lost in the magical wonderland of
>>>>>> Patrick Doyle's "My Fathers Favourite"; it is a breathtakingly
>>>>>> beautiful place indeed. Which got me thinking...what is it about
>>>>>> certain pieces of music that invoke in us an overwhelming emotional
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>>   )
>> I_D Allan
>> 
>> If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
>> Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide quoted text -
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