Lots of luck with that one! :-)
On Sep 7, 1:00 pm, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: > I was looking at a possible government for Libia (No one listens to me and > it just a thought.) because of the possibilities > Idea > a senate with two senators from each tribe and say eight elected > senators representative and elected by non tribe members. term six years > A house of representatives elected by the population basis. term two years.. > A President elected by all citizens.. term four years with a maximum of two > terms maximum of ten terms. > A separate judicial system elected by the people and of no religious party > term six years maximum of two terms > All officials under extreme scrutiny both video and audio especially when > dealing with businesses.. > > and a variable tax structure with out deductions.. > > based of what I feel is good about the american system (after all I am > american by birth and the system I know the best, > Allan > > > > On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 2:04 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > My guess is we have to realise our democracies are corrupt and look to > > some alternatives to voting for parties that are easy prey to > > lobbists. One crucial statement is being made to us all the time - > > that the rich and entrepreneurs need to corner over half of all wealth > > in order to be 'motivated' and that we have to keep a lot of others > > very poor. This dooms us to a certain kind of economy - one I believe > > is more or less feudal. > > The question is how we can change this without being suckered into > > another form of big government we can't afford - I share rigsy's view > > on what we can currently vote for. One of the problems we face is > > free-riding - both of pond life and banksterism. The rich are by far > > the bjgger parasite. > > > We always hear that investment will go elsewhere if we tax at high > > rates - with no discussion of why a small few deserve their returns > > and others don't. I'm not convinced by these special people or that > > this form of wealth accumulation is moral or efficient - and I doubt > > we understand its history. We do seem to know, through imperialist > > wars and "communist" experiments that big government is very > > dangerous. Mostly, we want government out of our lives - yet we need > > control that allows us dignity and genuine public equality. Allan > > points to much soaked up attitude that needs to change - but many say > > these are the very attitudes we need to exploit for 'success'. > > > Trying to do something about wealth distribution,prevent poverty, make > > consumption sensible and societies peaceful and sustainable tends to > > lead is into old positions of left and right - this is not where the > > dialogue needs to go. > > > On Sep 6, 8:54 am, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I defficiento not have a crystal ball I wish I did,, maybe the people > > need to wake > > > up and smell the roses, unfortunately in both Europe and the US the tiny > > > percentage of the population control the media and with that they guide > > the > > > thinking into what they nee it to be to preserve their way of life. > > > Unfortunately to many people worship money The golden calf syndrome and > > > while they are in that state they can be controlled quiet easily. > > > > It is hard for everyone to get of the tiger of wealth and greed. > > > Allan > > > > education amy allow one to see the dots but it is also the very thing > > that > > > prevents then from stepping out of the boundaries. > > > > On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 3:55 PM, Vam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > True, Allan, except that it is not stagnant but dying... however much > > > > people hold up technology and democracy and what not. The oligarchs > > > > are accumulating and manipulation and are more and more insecure and > > > > afraid of " Jasmine Uprising." The intellectuals are battling the > > > > ghosts. And people are becoming more and more poor and disenfranchised > > > > in a real sense. The Western economies are poorer today than in the > > > > 60s. In the US, 20% are on food stamps. Greece, Italy, Spain, UK, > > > > Ireland, France, Portugal... you name it. > > > > > On the other hand Russia is becoming more and more undemocratic and > > > > dictatorial... 22% adults wish to emigrate for good... yes, FOR GOOD. > > > > China is a monster that believes only 100% propaganda and homogeneity > > > > can prevent a violent upheaval... the CPC cannot dismount the tiger it > > > > is riding on ! > > > > > In India, something interesting has just happened... the govt and the > > > > Parliament has had to hear the people's call for inclusive > > > > participation, anti-corruption ombudsman, transparency... setting a > > > > path from VOTE FOR POWER IN DEMOCRACY to POWER FOR VALUES IN > > > > DEMOCRACY. It has a long way to go. > > > > > It's the people who have to rise up to say that the entire power of > > > > the State is theirs... only delegated to democratic institutions for > > > > their welfare and care, and nation building, and not to be usurped by > > > > an opaque, wilful and corrupt dispensation manipulated by self - > > > > serving oligarchical clique. > > > > > On Sep 5, 2:06 pm, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I feel education is of great importance as it is the foundation for > > > > growth > > > > > as humanity. The truth comes to the simple point either you are > > growing > > > > or > > > > > you are dying. There is no standing still. > > > > > > As I look at civilization I see a society that is in reality is > > stagnant, > > > > > control by an extreme minority who are terrified of losing control. > > The > > > > > result is extreme poverty world wide. > > > > > Allan > > > > > On Sep 4, 2011 1:21 PM, "Vam" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > We need pragmatists and status quoists but can't depend on them for > > > > > > our future. > > > > > > > For that, we must nurture creatives, rebels and blasphemes. > > Precisely > > > > > > what the social, political, judicial and business institutions are > > > > > > structured and pre-programmed to progressively discourage, oppose, > > > > > > reluctantly allow, absolutely oppose, and disallow. The majority of > > > > > > the rest of the population follows in " their " image and conforms > > ! > > > > > > > Don't get me wrong. Isn't that how it should be ? After all, we > > can't > > > > > > encourage, much less allow, monumental change everyday. Can we ? > > > > > > > On Sep 4, 1:51 pm, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> That seems so true. It is scary,, the God came out of a > > coffershop > > > > > >> conversation. Only it w called a 'Bartonian' named after my > > father. > > > > > > >> It seem academics can only follow it teachings. You see the same > > thing > > > > to > > > > > >> the extreme in the churches, there they spend their time proving > > their > > > > > point > > > > > >> by quoting their religious documents. Little to creativity or > > original > > > > > >> thought. > > > > > >> Allan > > > > > >> On Sep 4, 2011 12:53 AM, "archytas" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >> > Icame across some recent research that says much I used to > > teach. > > > > > >> > I'll paraphrase rather than linking to it. It fits with what > > Bill > > > > > >> > says on politics, though the focus is 'creativity' > > > > > >> > ScienceDaily (Sep. 3, 2011) — Most people view creativity as an > > > > asset > > > > > >> > -- until they come across a creative idea. That's because > > creativity > > > > > >> > not only reveals new perspectives; it promotes a sense of > > > > > >> > uncertainty. The next time your great idea at work elicits > > silence > > > > or > > > > > >> > eye rolls, you might just pity those co-workers. Fresh research > > > > > >> > indicates they don't even know what a creative idea looks like > > and > > > > > >> > that creativity, hailed as a positive change agent, actually > > makes > > > > > >> > people squirm. > > > > > >> > "How is it that people say they want creativity but in reality > > often > > > > > >> > reject it?" said Jack Goncalo, ILR School assistant professor of > > > > > >> > organizational behavior and co-author of research to be > > published in > > > > > >> > an upcoming issue of the journal Psychological Science. The > > paper > > > > > >> > reports on two 2010 experiments at the University of > > Pennsylvania > > > > > >> > involving more than 200 people. > > > > > >> > The studies' findings include: > > > > > >> > Creative ideas are by definition novel, and novelty can trigger > > > > > >> > feelings of uncertainty that make most people uncomfortable. > > > > > >> > People dismiss creative ideas in favor of ideas that are purely > > > > > >> > practical -- tried and true. > > > > > >> > Objective evidence shoring up the validity of a creative > > proposal > > > > does > > > > > >> > not motivate people to accept it. > > > > > >> > Anti-creativity bias is so subtle that people are unaware of it, > > > > which > > > > > >> > can interfere with their ability to recognize a creative idea. > > > > > >> > For example, subjects had a negative reaction to a running shoe > > > > > >> > equipped with nanotechnology that adjusted fabric thickness to > > cool > > > > > >> > the foot and reduce blisters. > > > > > >> > To uncover bias against creativity, the researchers used a > > subtle > > > > > >> > technique to measure unconscious bias -- the kind to which > > people > > > > may > > > > > >> > not want to admit, such as racism. Results revealed that while > > > > people > > > > > >> > explicitly claimed to desire creative ideas, they actually > > > > associated > > > > > >> > creative ideas with negative words such as "vomit," "poison" and > > > > > >> > "agony." > > > > > >> > Goncalo said this bias caused subjects to reject ideas for new > > > > > >> > products that were novel and high quality. > > > > > >> > "Our findings imply a deep irony," wrote the authors, who also > > > > include > > > > > >> > Jennifer Mueller of the University of Pennsylvania and Shimul > > > > Melwani > > > > > >> > of the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill. "Revealing the > > > > > >> > existence and nature of a bias against creativity can help > > explain > > > > why > > > > > >> > people might reject creative ideas and stifle > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
