I don't know how I missed this post, pol, and I am very sorry to hear
about your beloved pet. Just try to take it easy as the grief can last
a long time.

On Oct 5, 6:27 am, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]> wrote:
> That sounds very busy rigs...... good time ahead......... but i guess ill be
> wallowing about other things for a while... my most loved pet just died this
> morning....  trying to reconcile.....
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> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 7:57 PM, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I've got some "hot" insights, as well! :-) I was a parent for 45 years
> > and came to the "profession" as a complete dolt. I will think about
> > this today, kid (here's thinking of you...), but am busy with outdoor
> > chores before winter arrives. My youngest son's friend is helping out-
> > though I am paying him. Yesterday he gave me his old 16' ladder which
> > was like a bouquet of roses- shows you where my needs and wants are at
> > the moment- I only had a 5' step ladder after getting rid of a 36'
> > wooden monster that took two burly men to lift. My neighbor always
> > lent us one of his but this will be handy. Also my two sons and
> > daughter are all flying in for Thansgiving which may seem far off but
> > am trying to clear the list of "to do's" so we can just relax and have
> > fun. Also one grand-daughter "won" the short straw for the trip.
> > Anyway- I do have some thoughts on your thoughts and they do come up
> > in conversations with my adult children esp. as they observe their own
> > children.
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> > On Oct 4, 8:29 am, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Hey there everyone, the other day i was sitting around and thinking
> > > about my grown upness, the fact that having passed childhood proven
> > > that i can sit and reminisce about it... i have a question about the
> > > categorisations.. are they purely biological?... but that was beside
> > > the point... what i was thinking was... i was sometimes very mean and
> > > selfish whe younger... and since i can take an objective view now...
> > > the little 'me'disgusts me sometimes... i am speaking in terms of
> > > 'morality'... now considering 'morality' in the adult world is much
> > > debated... then its even harder to define it for children.. my
> > > question is ... how is morality for children different ... if a child
> > > does something mean... we dont pay much attention to it... we just let
> > > it off.. saying you know so and so is a kid.... well thats what makes
> > > it harder for me to understand... a child... acting selfish... is i
> > > suppose forgivable.. he or she hasnt been conditioned to 'hide' their
> > > selfishness... but doing harm ... or causing pain to the other.. that
> > > should be taken seroiusly...if they enjoy kiiling an insect.. enjoy
> > > torturing an animal...it really baffles me when some children do
> > > that ..and they do indeed ... if a child is not 'conditioned' how will
> > > she or he grow up to be...we cant realy tell cause we will never be
> > > able to provide that kind of vaccum... there arguments that say the
> > > whole morality thing is just a survival thing.. like the social
> > > contract or whatever.... Why do we say children are innocent.. by
> > > innocent do we mean they dont have a 'social curtain' thing... its all
> > > out in the open whatever there is... Different communities have
> > > different attitudes towards children right... i often think of the
> > > children on the street... they learn survival really quick... what
> > > would their 'morals' be.. what do you think?... and also Parents...
> > > what if the parents that raise a particular child.. are well
> > > 'depraved' according to standards... is it necessary that the child
> > > will pick up that... or he/she might pick up the complete oppositite
> > > values... without there being much socialisation... is it
> > > possible?....i kinda jumbled it... but its all out... tell me what you
> > > think.. anything at all... like Rigs quite often has some cool
> > > insights about parent children realtionships...
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