agreed Allan On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 4:37 AM, Vam <[email protected]> wrote:
> " I want to treat all humankind accepting peace and non-violence > equally." > > Most of us will start with something as clean and clear, then hang in > deliberation when faced with their " self-interest "... when it comes > to acting in accord with what is clear and clean... and lose > themselves in the " complexity " of things, obtaining saving leverages > from thoughts of how the " world " and " humanity " is... > > The argument has always remained with us. It still lies with us... > and, fortunately, happily, many many of us are actually taking it > forward, almost wading into the " populace " and turning them around > to becoming forces of freedom and light, because they clearly and > cleanly feel and hence understand their own true will, against the > historical momentum of feudalism, slavery and darkness. > > The age of science and management has raised our thought, provided us > with tools and platforms. But it still needs the spirit, riding on > clean values and clear purpose... that bundle of hope and belief, > etched knowledge and massive will. The rest will follow... there are > millions of us too, equipped with the tools and poised on the > platforms. > > On Oct 7, 6:01 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > I want to treat all humankind accepting peace and non-violence > > equally. One quickly realises this can't work in full. I'm not > > giving maths lessons to all the kids round here who need them but am > > teaching my grandson. Most people can't even be trusted to find out > > simple and easily available facts in making decisions or coming to > > argument. There's an interesting example at - > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Ariely > > - which shows most in the US think things are more equal than they are > > and actually want them more equal than they think (already a massive > > fictional improvement on reality). I don't treat all women as equally > > as my partner. > > > > This doesn't lead me to dispatch equality as a concept - just > > recognise it's an ideal with complexity. > > > > Teaching has led me to the view that most people don't want to learn > > much. I suspect schooling inculcates this in most. I've had a glut > > of the stuff and can feel the bildung was for nothing in the freezing > > moral climate of banksterism, selfish, plastic society and the eye for > > the main chance. One teaches people who have to make their way in > > this world but we seem to teach them very little about it. > > > > If I ask students how much agriculture contributes to world GDP, most > > of the answers are between 30 - 60%. It's 4%. How did they get so > > dumb? > > If I show students where to find the information they can get the > > right answer. Sooner or later as a lecturer you discover students > > have to be led by the nose - only a few are really interested in > > thinking for themselves and becoming independent thinkers. > > > > If the above is the case in universities, what hope is there for an > > educated populace capable in democracy? Our politicians have long > > given up on this as the case and are now vying for votes in emotional > > ignorance and the fantasy worlds generated by alienation from facts - > > even antipathy towards them. > > > > Over here in the Banana Republic of the Sceptred Isle our PM Herr > > Cameroon has noticed hardly any kids get adopted any more and it takes > > over two years on average. This is dire evidence of jobsworth > > bureaucracy. I'm sure it is. > > I have noticed that "economics" pours nearly all available a monetary > > value can be put on into the hands of a few rich. This is evidence the > > economic system doesn't work. If he rings me up, I'll fix the > > adoption system - as long as he does his job on what I've noticed. > > Both these facts are true and admitting they are is important - but > > facts are not all there is to argument. > > > > And argument is the blight of democracy - it isn't about investigation > > and enquiry. It's about persuasion of the populace - a populace to > > lazy to do its own work on the facts, tired of its failure in an > > education system that ensures there is no benefit in finding out for > > yourself. > -- ( ) |_D Allan Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
