'what does nature lay out clearly to inspect and reflect on" Therein lies the mystery...and truth. Very good, James.
On Oct 20, 10:08 am, James Lynch <[email protected]> wrote: > This is a beacon to me Molly, thanks. You remind me that the > configurations of factors and circumstances may be complex but > whatever terms we use lead into gold, or reciprocity and > multidimensional thinking, or a social subconscious we can take it > right back to home by asking, 'what does nature lay out clearly to > inspect and reflect on'. I skimmed an article a few weeks ago that > culminated in a simple and profound truth: whatever work you do, if it > involves people it is fundamentally moral. Though I continue my > struggle to find solutions in configurations of complex systems and > dynamics your words on humanity resonate with a great 'standing wave' > that is constantly perturbed but always returns. These things allow me > to law down my weighs occasionally in a single breath, funny thing > about a simple word like 'sigh' that can represent a multitude of > thoughts. Aye, thoughts awander to Milgram's experiments now so I > better get to work before anxiety creeps up. > > Watching quietly here lately but I love the excellent discussions > going on. Fall has racked me this year, I should tend to the hearth > vigilantly- in many ways. > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > > The issue is complex indeed. Medical marijuana has been legal in > > Michigan for a few years, but the distribution system is a failure. I > > know it took California many years to make it widely available but it > > creates another level of bureaucracy for folks to get medical > > treatment and makes it cost prohibitive in many cases. One nice long > > stroll down Freemont street in Last Vegas on any given night will > > illustrate some of your ideas here. Until we move to an understanding > > that change comes from inside out, we pump ourselves with ideas and > > substances that we find around us, thinking they will improve our > > internal environment. Trouble is, that method only secures the > > blindfold. It is an adolescent mindset that many do not outgrow. > > Setting the conditions for resilliency and empowerment in kids takes > > adults that understand that. Society is in short supply. Yet life > > goes on and we are each continually called to our own instincts and > > intuitions that are the only real guideposts that any of us have. > > > On Oct 12, 12:26 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > >> The area is riddled with problems we can't solve in full Molly. I'm > >> sure you must know how squalid it all gets. Rigsy is pointing to how > >> we seem to fly into non-solutions on the basis of 'despising' the > >> current generation of 'youth'. Lots of stuff in our homes manages to > >> get into children, from bleach and disinfectant to racism. This, of > >> course, is not a reason for adding more. I've seen academic ethnology > >> (Dunlap et al googles) but it misses much of the plight. What it gets > >> to some of is the 'exchanges' that go on - sex for drugs as young as 9 > >> - often for mothers and associated men. It's all a long way from > >> Chris and I sharing a few beers and experimental chemistry. > >> 'Models' get flung up without much thinking through - the classic here > >> is the Dutch "legalisation" - this being no such animal. It's a > >> limited decriminalisation and not entirely popular. It's better > >> understood as attitudinal. I'm a fuggy muggy pub adherent and would > >> like to see cannabis available under licence from them and to treat > >> the issues under a medical model - but there's a big 'but' in that the > >> crap behaviour associated with booze and drugs needs much harsher > >> treatment, including follicle testing for kids in user families. > > >> I don't think the prohibition mentality helps in anything from > >> abortion through to most vice - the big issue is how to prevent vice > >> turning to rackets (our lotteries were once numbers rackets run by > >> characters like Frank Nitty). Amsterdam politicians come out with > >> declarations to sweep away the red light district and replace it with > >> 'a red carpet to their wonderful museums' - but in truth our > >> governments are not averse to organised crime money and encourage all > >> sorts of 'off shore' dodges where this money is laundered. > > >> We need something other than the knee-jerk stuff rigsy outlines as > >> part of the problem and a better understanding of the 'lack of > >> harmony'. I saw Noel Gallagher (Oasis) talking persuasively about > >> this last night. Celebrity is dangled everywhere but the truth is no > >> jobs and earning capacity. Here our generation's 'self-reliance' and > >> scorn for those who can't find worn as idlers and losers is very > >> damaging. Every piece of detailed history I've seen shows these > >> generational matters are endemic and take much the same form. > >> Smuggling has a long history around prohibition, taxes (often levied > >> for wars) or other trade issues. > > >> On Oct 12, 11:03 am, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > I see the biggest barrier to your suggestion, Neil, is the question of > >> > how to limit access to our kids, who's ability to reason doesn't > >> > really develop until the early twenties. Most addictive behavior > >> > begins before then. As it is, the access for them, although illegal, > >> > isn't hard. Kids in the lowest and highest income families have the > >> > same risk factors. It is thought that is because neither group is > >> > given much attention by their families but for different reasons. > >> > Most of these kids don't find much harmony with life, and the > >> > percentage of addiction is highest. > > >> > On Oct 11, 6:35 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > I'd like to see decriminalisation and public availability of most of > >> > > the weaker drugs. I suspect the moral is channeled into looking down > >> > > on vice instead of the actually more obvious evils like poverty. > > >> > > On Oct 10, 7:16 pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > I learned some more about my parent's generation while watching > >> > > > "Prohibition"- a film by Ken Burns on PBS. A few more pieces to add > >> > > > to > >> > > > the jigsaw. I can see why they tightened the reins, so to speak. > >> > > > Maybe > >> > > > this is a factor between generations- sort of a see-saw- regarding > >> > > > behavior, expectations, mores- but I think it also exisits between > >> > > > classes and other distinctions within society. > > >> > > > What do you think? > > >> > > > Also- what about legalizing marijuana and other soft recreational > >> > > > drugs and taxing them? Might be at least one boost to the ecomony/ > >> > > > revenue. If someone wants to over-do anything, they will, so are we > >> > > > repeating the mistakes of Prohibition? > > >> > > > Why do you think people have emotional "blind spots"? Trauma or > >> > > > ignorance...or both?
