I believe the memories remaining with the living or creations left behind- even our genetic codes- are our afterlife. The lure of an afterlife is to give hope to those who found real life pretty miserable plus provides a rationale for various religious and moral rules. What was the sale of Indulgences during the Middle Ages except a form of a protection racket?
On Mar 18, 3:58 am, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > Some people believe in an after-life because some people claim to > remember past births , experience is on their side , they say. You > might as well believe in ghosts and ghouls because some people claim > to have experienced them. So much for experience ! > > > > On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 3:07 AM, Vam <[email protected]> wrote: > > How do you know that, RP, when your dead ? Have you ever died before ? > > > We all have a body and a mind. Based on its capabilities, or > > incapabilities, what are we talking about ? Nature ? We hardly know > > what, how much, how far, in what ways... it works, in all the 10 to > > power 22 star worlds. What we know of it can hardly determine what we > > do know about it, quite as the past can hardly define the future ! > > > Likewise, God. WTF are we talking about ? Now this could seem rude but > > should make perfect sense in the context. As in what is this God ? > > What constitutes it ? How does it relate to that other fog word " > > Nature " ? > > > I sincerely believe such threads are started on account of something > > diseased within us ! > > > Healthy people should be talking of matters they know or have > > experienced. One can then opine, extrapolate, theorise... and still be > > understandable. > > > On Mar 17, 11:26 pm, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Good > >> Allan > >> On Mar 17, 2012 5:28 PM, "RP Singh" <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > As long as I am alive I am conscious of the world and myself , but when I > >> > am dead I reach a state of permanent unconsciousness , a state of supreme > >> > peace where nothing disturbs me , a sort of nirvana. that is the ultimate > >> > state from which nobody returns. > > >> > On Friday, March 9, 2012 3:32:12 AM UTC+5:30, Ash wrote: > > >> >> This does make some sense to me RP so I hope my question doesn't sound > >> >> critical. For me thinking in this way causes a massive amount of > >> >> difficulty, as it sounds like immutable truths, so I have to translate > >> >> away the language to get glints of my own thinking through. We could > >> >> easily call my predicament not seeing the forest for the trees, and > >> >> that would be a fitting if not limited statement. In my mind I prefer > >> >> to start with the will representing laws of nature which are dynamic, > >> >> and work more along an opportunistic heuristic. For me it is obvious > >> >> that some people talk about an n-dimensional entity, but n is an > >> >> aspect of scope in one's perspective. If n is potentially infinite, > >> >> then the truths may have strength but are more optimizations than > >> >> static ontology. I am wondering if there is some useful perspective > >> >> that can be used in my situation, or perhaps it is a hopeless case. > >> >> Perhaps you have something to help me? > > >> >> On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 4:21 AM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > Neil , there is no difference. The universe is not nature but a > >> >> > manifestation of Nature or God. It is unconscious but not dead, as > >> >> > that would have meant no life , further it has to be unconscious as > >> >> > the conscious is always bound to certain limits and is dual. > > >> >> > On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 3:57 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> That's a little bit different - and I'm in agreement. Some > >> >> >> scientists > >> >> >> have suggested we could make a universe with life conditions in the > >> >> >> laboratory - still leaving us with issues about beginnings. Science > >> >> >> fiction wise one can imagine making such universes in order to travel > >> >> >> in time in them to discover more on how we were made - by occupying > >> >> >> earlier stages of them. I tend to think of the unconscious as what > >> >> >> isn't in rational consciousness, but I know this is inadequate as > >> >> >> much > >> >> >> human consciousness in action is not known to the participants > >> >> >> rationally. > > >> >> >> On Mar 5, 2:59 am, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >>> Life had to come from somewhere , why not from an unconscious Nature > >> >> >>> which would explain the presence of Laws behind every action and > >> >> >>> inaction. > > >> >> >>> On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 2:36 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >>> > That doesn't help RP. Why this rather than a host of > >> >> >>> > alternatives? > > >> >> >>> > On Mar 4, 4:28 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >>> >> God is not made of fire , air , earth , water , ether and > >> >> consciousness , > >> >> >>> >> rather all these emanate from Him. God is unconscious and without > >> >> >>> >> attributes. > > >> >> >>> >> On Sunday, January 29, 2012 8:51:49 PM UTC+5:30, RP Singh wrote: > > >> >> >>> >> > God , Nature , Truth , Reality is unconscious and the Creation > >> >> which > >> >> >>> >> > emanates from it has no choice. You may think that you have > >> >> choice , but > >> >> >>> >> > whatever you think , feel and do is as certain as the > >> >> >>> >> > trajectory > >> >> of the > >> >> >>> >> > celestial bodies. The entire universe , you included, is bound > >> >> by laws and > >> >> >>> >> > everyone is a slave to" Laws", that is , "The Will of God". > >> >> >>> >> On Sunday, January 29, 2012 8:51:49 PM UTC+5:30, RP Singh wrote: > > >> >> >>> >> > God , Nature , Truth , Reality is unconscious and the Creation > >> >> which > >> >> >>> >> > emanates from it has no choice. You may think that you have > >> >> choice , but > >> >> >>> >> > whatever you think , feel and do is as certain as the > >> >> >>> >> > trajectory > >> >> of the > >> >> >>> >> > celestial bodies. The entire universe , you included, is bound > >> >> by laws and > >> >> >>> >> > everyone is a slave to" Laws", that is , "The Will of God".- > >> >> >>> >> > Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
