Aaaaaannnd let us not forget that Odin hung himself, a sacrifice of 
him/his? self to his self to gain knowledge.  what is is with these ancient 
faiths and there need for sacrifice anyway?

On Saturday, 8 December 2012 10:45:12 UTC, Gabby.T wrote:
>
> My favourite bible quote is: There is no rest for the wicked. That is the 
> kind of knowledge that I can identify with. I can see that in you too, how 
> you don't stop fighting for what you think is right.
>
> As for our cave origin - in our German word for 'hell', "Hölle", we still 
> hear the "Höhle", which means 'cave'. So the bible explanation and and 
> your native american friend's explanation do not contradict in my ears. 
> Hell (cave) is where we are coming from, sky (Heaven, Himmel) is where we 
> are going to. Go to hell means start again. I find that a really simple 
> rule of thumb to get the orientation right.
>
> I don't know the hanging context you speak of, but it reminds me of the 
> tarot card, the one before the death card. It resembles the headstand in 
> yoga philosophy.  - Not too bad a recommendation to do likewise.
>
>
> 2012/12/8 Allan H <[email protected] <javascript:>>
>
>> do you even know what the spirit is?? My Native american friend would
>> say you speak with forked tongue...   May be they are right that they
>> came from caves deep within the earth..
>>
>> II see the spirituality you talk about is nothing more than cheap
>> carny double talk designed to confuse and evade the truth..  Watching
>> the baptist show  television..  well I see where you get your ideas
>> from..
>>
>> leaving you with my two favorite new testament holy bible quotes which
>> according to you are never wrong..
>>
>> "And he went out and hung himself  --   Go do thou likewise."
>> Allan
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 7:57 PM, The Nice Mean Man
>> <[email protected] <javascript:>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > On Dec 6, 4:02 am, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> Ahhh the old blood of Christ huh.
>> >>
>> >> This makes no sense to me at all.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Naturally....
>> >
>> > "A natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God; for
>> > they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because
>> > they are spiritually appraised" (1 Corinthians 2:14).
>> >
>> >
>> >>  When you consider that the bible tells
>> >> us we are made in God's image, what do you think this means?
>> >> The world is full of people who do not look the same, so are we talking
>> >> abou God's physical image?  No that can't be right, can it?
>> >> Perhaps them we are made in the image of a being who has morality, 
>> could
>> >> that be it, we are moral creatures like our creator?
>> >> Well this fits far better, to my mind anyway.
>> >>
>> >
>> > We were made in His spiritual image, of course! Since God is indeed a
>> > spirit.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> Then as a moral creature, I would not require a blood sacrifce, nor 
>> indeed
>> >> a death, for me to 'save' any of my children, I would just do it, out 
>> of
>> >> love.
>> >>
>> >
>> > For the life of the flesh is in the blood; and I have given it to you
>> > upon the altar to make atonement for your souls: for it is the blood
>> > that maketh atonement by reason of the life (Leviticus 17:10)
>> >
>> >> Do you suggest then that we created humans have higher moral priciples 
>> than
>> >> God?  No that can't be right either, can it?
>> >>
>> >
>> > It isn't right. Period. But don't fret too much.... you'll have all
>> > eternity to figure it out. :)
>> >
>> > <snip>
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>  (
>>   )
>> |_D Allan
>>
>> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
>>
>>
>> I am a Natural Airgunner -
>>
>>  Full of Hot Air & Ready To Expel It Quickly.
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

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