You took singing lessons in Germany Neil? did you get a chance to sing some of Wagner's operas? ;o0
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 11:52 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > New Shades of Black sort of works for what I meant to write. We > scientists never got on with grammar, having decided explosions and > light effects much more interesting than the seduction of language and > the aphoristic path to French homosexuals or novels meant for girls. > To us sentences were meaningless enough, probably some sort of mating > talk we would eventually have to learn to predicate ourselves with > subjects of the wider form of life we hoped to sleep with whilst > awake. Someone forgot to tell Shakespeare we prefer quiet and thus > one has to put up with a lot of noise before the rest belatedly > acknowledged and consigned to silence by the copy-scribe Wittgenstein > whilst in traction. > > What is the decision of the cut-off thumb rigs? The one next to one > hand clapping. What fuggy muggy logic behind the pub door lures from > the temptation of an affair with Karenina otherwise a necessity in not > getting out enough? Translation bitter gnädiges Fräulein lest I lapse > to that most logically structured modern language eliminating space > grammar of verylongwordsruntogether and verbs inconveniently placed so > that one after the event what's going on knows. Or assume I have gone > mad reading Goethe during an opera by Wagner. There is no difference > without differance I was told, French cafe with poor folk music poor > folk might have feigned attention of to stay warm as hinterland no > desired fuggymug in Paris over beer designed for Pelicans with an old > Jewish pied noire clinking Glas because his son had disowned him for > secrets said in public. > > I must remember word order in German is more flexible than in English > when I study for my certificates in > Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz. You > just have to know a compound as long as that concerns or deserves > butchery! Gabby and I (now there's a title for a dreadful sitcom) may > share Old Saxon or earlier German grass-porridge growing invaders of > Scotland ancestry. Genes may be better proof than attempting to > construct the common language before my Scot's tendency to bad > poetics, the lady's dark-eye observation code and the smile that will > come on knowledge my grandson has eaten the last of the biscuits. > > On Mar 29, 12:22 pm, rigs <[email protected]> wrote: > > Funny. I was just musing that social media is related to the thumbs up/ > > down of the Colosseum of ancient Rome! :-) > > > > On Mar 29, 6:28 am, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh, the credits for pointing out the possibility/likelihood of being > the > > > subject/object of distortions go to Rigs! Omitting the predicate might > have > > > evoked the feeling you could have missed something, but no, you're > right, > > > there was no point. > > > > > The "Oh shit!" pedagogic method is called "black pedagogy", not to be > > > mistaken with "black humor", or with the connections to the past that > Rigs > > > draws. > > > > > Hey Neil, how about "New Shades Of Black" as a book title for the book > I > > > have pre-ordered from you? Ok, I admit, I'm not really waiting, I have > > > already started reading. :) > > > > > 2013/3/28 James <[email protected]> > > > > > > One approach that I've rarely caught in a class is a teacher taking > a no > > > > BS approach to the material. It seems useful to have a frank > historical > > > > perspective on what motivates the theories or breaches the old > paradigms, > > > > perhaps a creative excursion into cultural universals. Maybe picking > a few > > > > wacky examples of applied economics and let them get a good laugh, > then > > > > show parallels with their culture to get them thinking. > > > > > > One example is ancient civilizations using up natural resources, then > > > > looking over the forecasted impact of the US aquifers bottoming out. > > > > Suddenly the conservationists don't sound as alarmist, is there a > word for > > > > the "Oh shit!" pedagogic method? No offense but economics sounds > boring in > > > > itself, but your thoughts here make it sound interesting. Are you > allowed > > > > to hint to the class when you think something is little more than an > > > > academic publishing circle jerk? > > > > > > Hmm, what you've said about 'distorting filters' has me wondering if > I > > > > missed gabby's point. You lost a book and I was born.. :D > > > > > > On 3/27/2013 7:28 PM, archytas wrote: > > > > > >> I've just read a book that says neo-classical economics is just an > > > >> ideology forced down our throats by the vile rich - actually the > whole > > > >> book probably says less than that as the authors won't call a spade > a > > > >> spade. Gabby seems to have read he book too. It came 30 years too > > > >> late. I could have missed all those research methods classes and > > > >> worried less about feeling economics was a load of junk that could > > > >> only make sense to Monty Python's dead Norwegian Blue parrot. > Perhaps > > > >> economists have just discovered the archive of my lecture notes, > lost > > > >> on a bus in Lancaster in 1983? I seem to remember they advocated > > > >> swapping one set of distorting filters for another and mentioning > the > > > >> term paradigm a lot. Big data was barred as positivist - a term I > > > >> loosely translated as 'guileless scientist like you Neil'. You had > to > > > >> call data 'capta' to be in with the crowd that mistakenly thought it > > > >> was the in crowd, socially constructed facts from thin air I > > > >> interpreted as a source for green hydrocarbon production and taught > me > > > >> to spell phenomenological. > > > > > >> On Mar 25, 10:02 pm, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >>> The Big Picture via distorting filters onto Big Data? > > > > > >>> 2013/3/24 andrew vecsey <[email protected]> > > > > > >>> I do not think that we lie to our self so much as that we only > see/hear > > > >>>> what we want to see/hear. Also we tend to say what we think the > other > > > >>>> persons wants to hear or say things to hurt other people. > > > >>>> On Sunday, March 24, 2013 10:46:03 AM UTC+1, rigs wrote: > > > > > >>>>> I am more interested in why we lie to ourselves, suppress > reality and > > > >>>>> snarl logic in our brains. There are life and death moments of > > > >>>>> survival, I suppose, but much of our potential is engineered by > family > > > >>>>> and culture in order to achieve some sort of control and order. > Even > > > >>>>> rebels are often little more than a reaction. Pretense and > etiquette > > > >>>>> are often the same thing.//I must have "lost" my thought re "big > > > >>>>> data"/"Big Daddy? as an organizer of human knowledge versus the > > > >>>>> present scatterings and specialties.// Yes- I agree most have a > gut > > > >>>>> reaction- but so do other life forms- it's a survival mechanism. > But > > > >>>>> it can be distorted. > > > >>>>> On Mar 24, 4:12 am, andrew vecsey <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > >>>>>> Faked enthusiasm is as easy to spot as fake love. It is like a > built > > > >>>>>> in > > > >>>>>> like a lie detector that god created us with. Sounds like a > good way > > > >>>>>> to > > > >>>>>> detect lying on the internet. You can call it "god" instead of > "big > > > >>>>>> brother". > > > >>>>>> On Saturday, March 23, 2013 6:08:39 PM UTC+1, archytas wrote: > > > >>>>>> ..................... > > > > > >>>>>>> Quite what junk DNA is has raised a big recent controversy - > gist at > > > >>>>>>>http://www.guardian.co.uk/****science/2013/feb/24/**< > http://www.guardian.co.uk/**science/2013/feb/24/**> > > > > > >>>>>> scientists-attacked-ove.<http:**//www.guardian.co.uk/science/** > > > >>>>> 2013/feb/24/scientists-**attacked-ove< > http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2013/feb/24/scientists-attacked-ove> > > > >>>>> .>.. > > > > > >>>>>> I agree with rigs that the term is unfortunate. > > > >>>>>>> ........but I could feign 'enthusiasm' .. > > > >>>>>>> ........' to detect resistance! Even this > > > >>>>>>> .....no employees dumb enough to support > > > >>>>>>> excellence, ...... > > > >>>>>>> if we spent out time pointing such devices at > > > >>>>>>> each other though rigs! Watch out for the first one minute > dating > > > >>>>>>> agency providing such! Arghh" . > > > >>>>>>> On Mar 22, 1:06 pm, rigs <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >>>>>>>> Junk is an unfortunate adjective- it sounds too random. My > guess is > > > >>>>>>>> that further selection takes place in this area which selects > the > > > >>>>>>>> strongest marker- or whatever it's called- such in the color > of > > > > > >>>>>>> eyes, > > > > > >>>>>> hair, and other characteristics. There are also generational > skips > > > > > >>>>>>> in > > > > > >>>>>> play. I have noted other strange echoes of a missing parent > such as > > > >>>>>>>> the style of laughter which is a surprise and so many other > > > >>>>>>>> recognitions. At any rate, we are just beginning to sort > through > > > > > >>>>>>> the > > > > > >>>>>> data in this one area as in others- I think it is called "big > data" > > > >>>>>>>> which will overcome the religious notion of "sins of the > father" > > > > > >>>>>>> stuff > > > > > >>>>>> as well as curses and fate and will hopefully allow a more > rational > > > >>>>>>>> and postive approach/life choices for each unique individual. > But > > > > > >>>>>>> it > > > > > >>>>>> will also cause mischief. > > > >>>>>>>> On Mar 22, 5:16 am, andrew vecsey <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Not all DNA code for protein. We have non coding DNA called > "junk > > > > > >>>>>>>> DNA" > > > > > >>>>>> that > > > > > >>>>>>>> ensure we are all unique. While normal DNA codes for protein > to > > > > > >>>>>>>> make, > > > > > >>>>>> for > > > > > >>>>>>>> example a "nose", junk DNA ensures that we grow a nose that > > > > > >>>>>>>> "looks" > > > > > >>>>>> like a > > > > > >>>>>>>> mixture of our father`s and our mother`s nose. > > > >>>>>>>>> On Friday, March 22, 2013 12:36:39 AM UTC+1, Ash wrote: > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> My thoughts didn't include "junk DNA", my thinking on such > > > > > >>>>>>>>> terms are > > > > > >>>>>> mixed in that some genes may not be useful or represent just > > > > > >>>>>>>>> another > > > > > >>>>>> failure point, but also that the supposed junk in one set of > > > >>>>>>>>>> circumstances may prove quite beneficial in others like a > > > > > >>>>>>>>> backup, an > > > > > >>>>>> alternate development chain or complex interdependencies we > > > > > >>>>>>>>> haven't > > > > > >>>>>> observed yet. You may have a connection in mind I haven't > > > > > >>>>>>>>> gleaned. > > > > > >>>>>> Developing the market sounds similar but I am trying to root > > > > > >>>>>>>>> out an > > > > > >>>>>> aspect of this that doesn't require jumping to a premature > > > > > >>>>>>>>> conclusion, > > > > > >>>>>>>> such as in 'intelligent design', materialism, rigid ontologies > > > > > >>>>>>>>> or > > > > > >>>>>> realism. Thanks for helping me explore here gabby, lets hope > > > > > >>>>>>>>> some > > > > > >>>>>> form > > > > > >>>>>>>> emerges in expression. :) > > > >>>>>>>>>> On 3/21/2013 3:57 AM, gabbydott wrote: > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Now that sounds more like you. :) > > > >>>>>>>>>>> What you are describing or asking I now > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> understand/interpret/hear > > > > > >>>>>> in > > > > > >>>>>>>> terms of what I know about what they are trying to find out > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> about > > > > > >>>>>> "junk DNA". Its purpose/function/added value. As for what you > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> describe > > > > > >>>>>>>> as another way, I know/experience/see this in what the > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> companies > > > > > >>>>>> describe as "developing the market". We are still on topic, > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> aren't > > > > > >>>>>> we? > > > > > >>>>>>>> 2013/3/21 James <[email protected] <javascript:> <mailto: > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> [email protected] <javascript:>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> I have a feeling you are being charitable with me > gabby > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> (cringe). > > > > > >>>>>>>> What you say makes sense, and should add that the intent > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> I > > > > > >>>>>> refer > > > > > >>>>>>>> to is in excess of that needed for mere gene survival > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> fitness. > > > > > >>>>>> In > > > > > >>>>>>>> that sense I consider the adaptations as simulations and > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> the > > > > > >>>>>> excess as breaking the barriers of meta-simulation, or in > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> another > > > > > >>>>>>>> way, not just running within time but operating on it by > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> taking > > > > > >>>>>>>> advantage of the rules and finding ways to bend them. Now > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> it > > > > > >>>>>> is my > > > > > >>>>>>>> turn to ask, does that make sense [to anyone]? > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On 3/20/2013 3:01 AM, gabbydott wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>> I don't know if this is good or > > > > ... > > > > read more » > > -- > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- ( ) |_D Allan Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. Of course I talk to myself, Sometimes I need expert advice.. -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
