We get our share on non votes here in the states too, banal choices that have been so watered down or obscured before reaching the ballot that voting at all is ridiculous. Proof once again on how hard it is to reach consensus and work cooperatively. Our very natures must prevent it. After watching the Roosevelt series here in the states (Ken Burns) I am left wondering just how may certifiable wackos walk among us, and just how to gain cooperation if the chore is to get past the more and less obvious personality disorders. None of it requires a belief in God by any measure.
On Tuesday, September 23, 2014 5:23:50 AM UTC-4, archytas wrote: > > I voted for Gabby as a moderator, perhaps as I own no hats that throw > well. And I voted for her as Queen of Scotland too as we share grass > porridge ancestry. The independence vote was largely on age - under 54 yes > and over no. I wanted a vote on separating the South-east of England from > the rest of the country, which would have applied to join federal Germany > as Celtland, Mercia and Wessex. There is no better art than Germans > shouting 'apple juice' at Nazis. > > On Saturday, 20 September 2014 14:05:07 UTC+1, Molly wrote: >> >> Gabby, the Don Rickels of Minds Eye: http://youtu.be/q5_V9RT8aR8 >> <http://youtu.be/q5_V9RT8aR8> >> >> On Saturday, September 20, 2014 6:24:14 AM UTC-4, Gabby wrote: >>> >>> ... boah... within the apple bubble everything looked perfect... so here >>> is the image I was referring to: >>> >>> >>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9g1I8hYg1dI/VB1VRx6OJaI/AAAAAAAAB_E/pVa344xVEJ8/s1600/stuttmann.jpg> >>> >>> http://www.tagesspiegel.de/images/darling_ts/10729562/2-format35.jpg >>> >>> >>> Am Samstag, 20. September 2014 12:15:27 UTC+2 schrieb Gabby: >>>> >>>> ...I need to remodify again... Tony asked for a 3-dimensional >>>> interpretation mode... and in the meantime I have read the newspaper and >>>> found this image: >>>> >>>> I very much like the upstairs dimension here and the Queen's pink hat >>>> (by throwing in the hat Neil got the mod job here, normal offers were >>>> ignored)... which leads me to edit my image into: Queen Molly, never >>>> outside without her hat Neil, and her corgie Allan at her feet.... yes, >>>> much more to the point... >>>> >>>> >>>> Am Samstag, 20. September 2014 schrieb gabbydott : >>>> >>>>> Oh, I'm glad you notice! For the time being I am happy with my >>>>> remodified "Minds Eye" image of Queen Molly in the center and her corgie >>>>> Allan by foot, as we would say in German. I do respect the long tradition >>>>> line, but honestly, this image might only help if you hang it in the >>>>> bathroom - as a relaxer when you have digestion problems. Problem solved. >>>>> >>>>> Am Samstag, 20. September 2014 schrieb Allan H : >>>>> >>>>>> Is everything okay Gabby, you sound like you are going through some >>>>>> very unpleasant and difficult times. Is there anything I can do to help? >>>>>> >>>>>> Allan >>>>>> A Living Soul >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: gabbydott <[email protected]> >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Sent: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 11:08 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: "A wise man once said." >>>>>> >>>>>> What about the needle? Are you afraid it could damage to your pink >>>>>> bubbles? >>>>>> >>>>>> 2014-09-19 22:52 GMT+02:00, Molly <[email protected]>: >>>>>> > http://youtu.be/fi2XCsPKlY8 Damage done >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On Friday, September 19, 2014 4:35:39 PM UTC-4, Gabby wrote: >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Whereas I doubt that the damage done can be ignored and suppressed >>>>>> any >>>>>> >> longer. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> 2014-09-19 22:09 GMT+02:00, Molly <[email protected]>: >>>>>> >> > But I have no doubt that these emotions will be tempered by an >>>>>> >> > understanding of the feelings of others. >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > On Friday, September 19, 2014 1:31:10 PM UTC-4, Gabby wrote: >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> Hahaha, God save the Queen. :) >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> Am Freitag, 19. September 2014 schrieb Molly : >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >>> Picking on each other seems irresistible at times. It is no >>>>>> substitute >>>>>> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >>> for dialogue. Not sure what purpose it serves. Maybe none. >>>>>> Maybe some >>>>>> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >>> kind >>>>>> >> >>> of personal satisfaction. I try to stay out of it. Life goes >>>>>> on. >>>>>> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >>> On Friday, September 19, 2014 10:05:30 AM UTC-4, Allan >>>>>> Heretic wrote: >>>>>> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>> >> >>>> Molly and Neil do an excellent job as moderators. I would >>>>>> like to >>>>>> >> give >>>>>> >> >>>> both of them a long heartfelt ovation for putting up with the >>>>>> likes >>>>>> >> of >>>>>> >> >>>> me >>>>>> >> >>>> and you Gabby. >>>>>> >> >>>> Thank you Molly & Neil for a job well done. >>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>> >> >>>> Allan >>>>>> >> >>>> Living Soul >>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>> >> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> >> >>>> From: Gabby Thiede <[email protected]> >>>>>> >> >>>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>>> >> >>>> Sent: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 3:57 PM >>>>>> >> >>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: "A wise man once said." >>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>> >> >>>> I would prefer you excised your moderation job in a more >>>>>> unartistic, >>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>> >> >>>> less biased way and took your responsibility as group owner >>>>>> more >>>>>> >> >>>> serious. >>>>>> >> >>>> But it seems this is only my preference. >>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>> >> >>>> Am 19.09.2014 um 15:37 schrieb Molly <[email protected]>: >>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>> >> >>>> art that is beautiful, art meant to disturb, art that pushes >>>>>> the >>>>>> >> >>>> technical limits previously established, art constructed not >>>>>> to last >>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>> >> >>>> like >>>>>> >> >>>> chalk on sidewalks or sand sculptures on beaches - art comes >>>>>> in many >>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>> >> >>>> forms >>>>>> >> >>>> and can be as simple as a concept in Haiku or complicated as >>>>>> Mt. >>>>>> >> >>>> Rushmore. >>>>>> >> >>>> This age old question, will it always be asked and answered? >>>>>> It does >>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>> >> >>>> provide a platform for good dialogue and self exploration. >>>>>> >> >>>> >>>>>> >> >>>> On Thursday, September 18, 2014 9:05:40 AM UTC-4, archytas >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>>> >> >>>>> I agree Facil - though some definition of artist is >>>>>> required. What >>>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>>> >> is >>>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>>> >> >>>>> this 'art' not part of 1000 channels with nothing on except >>>>>> the >>>>>> >> >>>>> simulacrum >>>>>> >> >>>>> of drivel, generally funded by advertising? I might point >>>>>> to >>>>>> >> Maxwell >>>>>> >> >>>>> (perhaps both the great scientist and my dog) and Einstein. >>>>>> I've >>>>>> >> long >>>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>>> >> >>>>> wondered about art and people-community development - I'm >>>>>> floored by >>>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>>> >> >>>>> people >>>>>> >> >>>>> using dance to work with disabled kids (as an example). >>>>>> Brian Bevan >>>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>>> >> >>>>> (rugby >>>>>> >> >>>>> leaugue's record try scorer) was a work of art in action. >>>>>> Gabby >>>>>> >> might >>>>>> >> >>>>> be >>>>>> >> >>>>> see as such in another form of side-step. Not all art >>>>>> brings much >>>>>> >> >>>>> reward. >>>>>> >> >>>>> Allan and Andrew have a go, sometimes not at each other. >>>>>> Molly has >>>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>>> >> >>>>> often >>>>>> >> >>>>> touched me deeply, even if so much of my experience has been >>>>>> 'dark >>>>>> >> >>>>> side'. >>>>>> >> >>>>> The chocolate box picture isn't art unless a child is >>>>>> smiling. >>>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>>> >> >>>>> Art may have some function in revealing such as 'change is >>>>>> the same >>>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>>> >> >>>>> thing' and the depravity of political words, the 'lie that >>>>>> tells us >>>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>>> >> the >>>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>>> >> >>>>> truth' sort of stuff - but does the 'pipe' have to be >>>>>> painted by >>>>>> >> >>>>> Magritte? >>>>>> >> >>>>> One confronts this picture doing systems analysis - >>>>>> modelling the >>>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>>> >> >>>>> reality >>>>>> >> >>>>> is not modelling the rhetoric. >>>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>>> >> >>>>> On Thursday, 18 September 2014 00:31:17 UTC+1, facilitator >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> I don't think artists do, otherwise the term "starving >>>>>> artist" >>>>>> >> would >>>>>> >> >>>>>> be applied less frequently. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> On Wednesday, September 17, 2014 9:54:57 AM UTC-4, >>>>>> archytas wrote: >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Ms Tidulz says she has no gold and just looks at her claws >>>>>> when I >>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>> suggest she should be replaced with a golden goose. >>>>>> Perhaps one >>>>>> >> >>>>>>> needs a >>>>>> >> >>>>>>> heretic cat? 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