I whole heartedly disagree with your last statement here.  Faith can be 
beyond reason, but doesn't need to be necessarily. It is reasonable for me 
to believe that living by the ten commandments can lead to as good a life 
as living by Stephen Covey's 7 habits. It may not be reasonable to believe 
that after I have lost everything of value in this world, the Lord will 
provide and things will get better.  My experience is, they do. Is it 
because I believe? That might be a reasonable explanation.

On Wednesday, October 22, 2014 4:21:10 PM UTC-4, facilitator wrote:
>
> There is no point in apologizing, I am not disappointed.  I am ambivalent 
> as to how you derive your belief system.  In order to be efficacious, faith 
> must be unreasonable.
>
>

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