I don't agree that everything reasonable is factual but there you have it. 
 We are probably both wrong.

On Wednesday, October 22, 2014 5:31:43 PM UTC-4, facilitator wrote:
>
> Once faith leaves the realm of "unreasonable" it becomes fact.  Your 
> belief system may incorporate faith, but it is not necessary.  You can 
> claim belief in substantive things or ideals or nor at all.  It is a 
> mechanism.   Facts and probabilities are also part of a valid belief system 
> but faith requires that the adherent relies on the metaphysical.
>
> On Wednesday, October 22, 2014 4:59:37 PM UTC-4, Molly wrote:
>>
>> I whole heartedly disagree with your last statement here.  Faith can be 
>> beyond reason, but doesn't need to be necessarily. It is reasonable for me 
>> to believe that living by the ten commandments can lead to as good a life 
>> as living by Stephen Covey's 7 habits. It may not be reasonable to believe 
>> that after I have lost everything of value in this world, the Lord will 
>> provide and things will get better.  My experience is, they do. Is it 
>> because I believe? That might be a reasonable explanation.
>>
>>

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