Welcome Sue to minds eye..  i believe things have guiet because of the 
happenings in Paris.  Neil is protected by a large moat without a drawbridge. 

Actually yesterday's response is a fantastic notice to terrorist.  Not in my 
name -- I am Charlie. 



تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres
Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others

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From: archytas <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 3:49 PM
Subject: Mind's Eye Welcome Sue Linda - and time 4 billion years on

Hi Sue Linda.  Feel free to join in.  We are a bit quiet at the moment, 
though sometimes manage to get ourselves going.

So what would the implications of time be 4 billion years on?

1. Would some archaeological historian be writing the relatively short 
history of an ape species with a deformed 24th chromosome pair, with 
evidence from the remains of a planet 'crisped' by its red giant star?
2. Could we 'travel' to the future if a species with 4 billion years more 
civilisation (now) happened along to colonise Mars and had a good neighbour 
intervention policy concerning 'primitives libidinising themselves to 
over-population and planet burning'?
3. Would even what we now think of as particles have developed 4 billion 
years on in the evolving universe?
4. How would anyone returning to the present explain her years with the 
advanced civilisation to we 'plebs'?
5. What of techniques of future profiling we have now and their role in 
imagining and bringing change - a classic is called 'science fiction 
prototyping' - imagine the social structure of the future to work out which 
products we should be working on now.

I'm particularly interested on how science fiction makes the future full of 
our present and traditions - an example to me of non-imagination writ large 
and entertainment as diversion from creative practical solutions.  Sci-fi 
mags are full of guidelines not to write this dross, but publish nothing 
else - chronic stuff like looking down at pot-holes with steel-toothed rats 
lurking at the bottom - standard fare on the walk home after a few beers.

Some might remember Wittgenstein used to imagine up tribes and how they 
would have to invent language - so we might understand the nature of 
language without the preconceptions of the stuff we use out of habit. 
 Imagine coming back here after years with a 4 billion year old 
civilisation where honesty is the best policy because there is a 
technological telepathy and trying to talk to others about it.

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