The drawbridge is there - at the front.  You've been using the tradesmans' 
entrance at the side.

On Monday, January 12, 2015 at 3:04:53 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>
> Welcome Sue to minds eye..  i believe things have guiet because of the 
> happenings in Paris.  Neil is protected by a large moat without a 
> drawbridge. 
>
> Actually yesterday's response is a fantastic notice to terrorist.  Not in 
> my name -- I am Charlie. 
>
>
>
> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
> Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres
> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: archytas <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 3:49 PM
> Subject: Mind's Eye Welcome Sue Linda - and time 4 billion years on
>
> Hi Sue Linda.  Feel free to join in.  We are a bit quiet at the moment, 
> though sometimes manage to get ourselves going.
>
> So what would the implications of time be 4 billion years on?
>
> 1. Would some archaeological historian be writing the relatively short 
> history of an ape species with a deformed 24th chromosome pair, with 
> evidence from the remains of a planet 'crisped' by its red giant star?
> 2. Could we 'travel' to the future if a species with 4 billion years more 
> civilisation (now) happened along to colonise Mars and had a good neighbour 
> intervention policy concerning 'primitives libidinising themselves to 
> over-population and planet burning'?
> 3. Would even what we now think of as particles have developed 4 billion 
> years on in the evolving universe?
> 4. How would anyone returning to the present explain her years with the 
> advanced civilisation to we 'plebs'?
> 5. What of techniques of future profiling we have now and their role in 
> imagining and bringing change - a classic is called 'science fiction 
> prototyping' - imagine the social structure of the future to work out which 
> products we should be working on now.
>
> I'm particularly interested on how science fiction makes the future full 
> of our present and traditions - an example to me of non-imagination writ 
> large and entertainment as diversion from creative practical solutions. 
>  Sci-fi mags are full of guidelines not to write this dross, but publish 
> nothing else - chronic stuff like looking down at pot-holes with 
> steel-toothed rats lurking at the bottom - standard fare on the walk home 
> after a few beers.
>
> Some might remember Wittgenstein used to imagine up tribes and how they 
> would have to invent language - so we might understand the nature of 
> language without the preconceptions of the stuff we use out of habit. 
>  Imagine coming back here after years with a 4 billion year old 
> civilisation where honesty is the best policy because there is a 
> technological telepathy and trying to talk to others about it.
>
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