Just what do you call a cover story Neil.

تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres
Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others

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From: archytas <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Fri, 30 Jan 2015 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: Mind's Eye God

Sometimes, Molly, we need to find what it is we need to reveal to get 
people to drop the cover-story.

On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 12:45:45 PM UTC, Molly wrote:
>
> Our stories do own us Neil, in one way or another, until we are ready to 
> let them go. Many Shamans let their "patients" take the drugs while they 
> follow along in awareness without the need of one. Changing states like 
> this requires the abandonment of mental constructs, including belief.
>
> On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 12:08:53 PM UTC-5, archytas wrote:
>>
>> There might be some future in exploring the digital flows Andrew. 
>>  Perspectives might be a bit like programs or flow in thermo-dynamics - 
>> some pathways possible others not.  Allan's 'it is always your perspective' 
>> seems compellingly logical - but I suspect it cannot be (much logic spirals 
>> up its own place of special darkness).
>>
>> I'm trying to write a story that seems relevant.  Two old cops are 
>> getting drunk and eating curry discussing an old child abuse case as they 
>> get on with a current one.  It's easy to keep this in the detective fiction 
>> genre, tough to explore the reality they cover up as they recognise 
>> detectives don't solve crimes.  They were, after all, "detectives" when all 
>> the CSE cover ups took place.  What was their role in that?  What shift in 
>> perspective has come now they are investigating both current abuse cases 
>> and the old cover up?  What was the real victim perspective?  Where is the 
>> perspective - in the individual or society or both?  Who or what didn't 
>> care as thousands of kids went through hell?  One might later wonder 
>> whether "spirituality" lets us avoid such reality - in this case the 
>> hard-boiled attitudes of the cops being the spirituality.
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 11:25:33 AM UTC, andrew vecsey wrote:
>>>
>>> It is not as simple as a "yes" or "no". 
>>> It can be "yes" for my reality and "no" for yours. Or "yes" for in the 
>>> past and "no" for in the future and "maybe" for in the present moment. Or 
>>> "Yes" for here and "no" for there.. 
>>> Or "I don`t know" or "I don`t care" .  
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 at 3:29:43 PM UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>>>
>>>> One needs to begin with what what is common. . Forgetting the d&d.  
>>>> ¿Does God  exist in some form?  That is a yes or no question. Nothing 
>>>> more. 
>>>>
>>>

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