As I was thinking of moral compasses, I wanted to find out what the various 
religions had to say about that. As a start, I looked it up on Wikipedia.

I cut and pasted the trlrvant paragraph that I want to share with all of 
you.  

*Relationship between religion and morality*


Within the wide range of ethical traditions, religious traditions co-exist 
with secular value frameworks such as humanism 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanism>, utilitarianism 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilitarianism>, and others. There are many 
types of religious values. Modern monotheistic 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monotheistic> religions, such as Islam 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam>, Judaism 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaism>, Christianity 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity>, and to a certain degree others 
such as Sikhism <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikhism>, define right and 
wrong by the laws and rules set forth by their respective gods and as 
interpreted by religious leaders within the respective faith. Polytheistic 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polytheistic> religious traditions tend to be 
less absolute. For example, within Buddhism 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism>, the intention of the individual 
and the circumstances should be accounted for to determine if an action is 
right or wrong.[9] 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morality_and_religion#cite_note-9> A further 
disparity between the morals of religious traditions is pointed out by Barbara 
Stoler Miller <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Stoler_Miller>, who 
states that, in Hinduism, "practically, right and wrong are decided 
according to the categories of social rank, kinship, and stages of life. 
For modern Westerners, who have been raised on ideals of universality and 
egalitarianism, this relativity of values and obligations is the aspect of 
Hinduism most difficult to understand".[10] 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morality_and_religion#cite_note-10>

According to Stephen Gaukroger 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Gaukroger>, "It was generally assumed 
in the 17th century that religion provided the unique basis for morality, 
and that without religion, there could be no morality."[11] 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morality_and_religion#cite_note-11> This view 
slowly shifted over time. In 1690, Pierre Bayle 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Bayle> asserted that religion "is 
neither necessary nor sufficient for morality."[12] 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morality_and_religion#cite_note-12> Modern 
sources separate the two concepts. For example, *The Westminster Dictionary 
of Christian Ethics* says that,

For many religious people, morality and religion are the same or 
inseparable; for them either morality is part of religion or their religion 
is their morality. For others, especially for nonreligious people, morality 
and religion are distinct and separable; religion may be immoral or 
nonmoral, and morality may or should be nonreligous. Even for some 
religious people the two are different and separable; they may hold that 
religion should be moral and morality should be, but they agree that they 
may not be.[13] 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morality_and_religion#cite_note-13>

Richard Paula and Linda Elder of the Foundation for Critical Thinking 
assert that "most people confuse ethics with behaving in accordance with 
social conventions, religious beliefs, and the law". They separate the 
concept of ethics from these topics, stating that

The proper role of ethical reasoning is to highlight acts of two kinds: 
those which enhance the well-being of others—that warrant our praise—and 
those that harm or diminish the well-being of others—and thus warrant our 
criticism.[14] 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morality_and_religion#cite_note-ReferenceA-14>

They note problems that could arise if religions defined ethics, such as 
(1) religious practices like "torturing unbelievers or burning them alive" 
potentially being labeled "ethical", and (2) the lack of a common religious 
baseline across humanity because religions provide different theological 
definitions for the idea of sin <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sin>.[14] 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morality_and_religion#cite_note-ReferenceA-14> 
They further note that various documents, such as the UN Declaration of 
Human Rights <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UN_Declaration_of_Human_Rights> 
lay out "transcultural" and "trans-religious" ethical concepts and 
principles such as slavery, genocide, torture, sexism, racism, murder, 
assault, fraud, deceit, and intimidation which require no reliance on 
religion (or social convention) for us to understand they are "ethically 
wrong".[14] 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morality_and_religion#cite_note-ReferenceA-14>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morality_and_religion#Relationship_between_religion_and_morality


On Thursday, February 5, 2015 at 5:31:19 PM UTC+1, pol.science kid wrote:
>
> I checked the etymology of religion... It makes even more suspicious of 
> religion.. Why do most people confuse being a theist with being 
> religious... Religion is just increasingly irritating.. I guess sometimes 
> they  overlap of course.. Theism and being religious.. But i am just 
> thinking.. When these big religions were supposedly concieved their message 
> must have been to people in general right. Not to hindus or muslims or 
> christians etc... Right?

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