Some religionists say atheists can't have any morality. I'm not actually atheist, but struggle to see how those on bended knee or prostrated in homosocial line East, with beliefs on no evidence can be trusted at all. Of course, it isn't that simple. Many people can put religion aside when making other judgements. Indeed, there are atheist zealots, a rather religious matter. Some of the most religious people I met were Iranian Marxists.
Attacking the views of others is widely misunderstood. The most common reason given by people in primitive tribes for war is revenge. The origin of who did what to whom can never be pinned down. Hitch-hiker has a great example of the amassing of a great battle fleet that hurtles toward Earth after two great galactic systems discover their war of aeons was actually started when a comment that flooped in from us and was misinterpreted as a foul comment about one of their mothers. Due to a massive mistake of scale, the joint fleet was swallowed by a small brown dog. One attacks the views of others by putting up a 'Nazi scum' poster in 1930's Germany - do our prohibitions extend to making that wrong? Ad hominem is not always a fallacy (check the term 'eristic'). Private behaviour, whether in churches or bondage clubs, seems of little import. The religious problem is essentially one of the public domain. I would welcome the spread of a religion of genuine peace and mutual respect. We lack a paradigm case of this and don't know enough about the many paradigm cases of the opposite, like the weird and tiny quasi-religious group that became the Nazis and other foul history of Numbers 31 in practice from Jihad, Crusade and imperialism generally. All had religious support. Is to mention history to attack personal belief? On Friday, February 6, 2015 at 8:23:40 AM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: > > A letter typo > > تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين > Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres > Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others > > -----Original Message----- > From: polly skid <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Fri, 06 Feb 2015 7:04 AM > Subject: Re: Mind's Eye religion > > Why are there two threads of religion? > On Feb 6, 2015 11:32 AM, "polly skid" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Well, i know most people know that religion is more than the sacred >> texts, mixed with culture , but it doesnt stop them from defending their >> religion... I mean, if one hs to defend religion, you might as well defend >> all religions. people in my class , they might have a sound sociological >> historical understanding of things, but if it comes to criticism of >> Hinduism exceeding a certain small limit they become touchy... Plus i hate >> how its all around.. Esp where i live, sort of alienates me... >> On Feb 6, 2015 1:31 AM, "Gabby" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Here in Europe we usually speak of the three book religions, meaning >>> Jews, Christians, Muslims. I guess we all more or less know that the >>> religion we were born into did not come into effect with the book being >>> read to us but with a life style that can be explained by our long history >>> described in the books. Of course there was meaningful life before and >>> after the fixation of certain narratives in the books, but controlling the >>> other or excercising power over the other is easier when you can define >>> what the same page is you want others to be on. What about religion is you >>> don't like? >>> >>> -- >>> >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> -- > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
