Hoi poli or should I call you kid. Eternal that is one difficult question maybe 
the definition is the best. Eternal Without beginning or end of existence; 
always existing. Definitions are a good place to start. Spirituality is a very 
difficult at best  so common definitions are very important.

Religious people for the most part are very good. Most trying to live sincere 
lives. And in accordance to traditional beliefs.  Some of which can be very 
interesting. From what I have seen of Hindu festivals they could be very 
interesting and fun. All I can really say is enjoy  .. I don't think taking 
part requires belief. If you are looking to find spirituality a good starting 
point is your native beliefs. There you strive to understand.  You actually 
have a lot of support. 
The faith of a child is a beautiful sight to behold. Being religious as a child 
does not exclude theism. A sound belief in a personal God is what theism is 
about. 

My Dad was raised without beliefs and became R Catholic after he met my mother. 
His religious beliefs lasted and guided his entire lifetime. He was 94 at the 
time of his transition. His spiruality was really amazing. I was proud of my 
Dad and his beliefs. In hard times they were a guiding light.. I always knew he 
believed and that is a lot.

Don't count out rituals. They can help you focus and get you out of the self 
that traps you. You will find over time therevae some amazing similarities 
among beliefs.
If you want to talk privately my email address is open.

تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres
Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others

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From: polly skid <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Fri, 06 Feb 2015 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: Mind's Eye religion

What do you think is meant by eternal? For us humans.. Thats another
difficult topic... Are some people just religious? I mean is it their
nature... See children are very religious..ive seen that everywhere... I
was a religious kid... But then.. I just grew out of it... I know my sister
was religious.. I cant say if she still is... Who has stayed religious into
their adulthood.. I would like to know... My mother is one.. But im not
counting her... My father has become religious... Rituals and all.. Now
that he is feeling his age or something.. Thats what i think at least.. I
never thought he would turn out to be religious.... What is it really?....
That explains it... Or.. Don't you think it's difficult to raise a child
without the idea of God? Is it? I don't know...
On Feb 6, 2015 11:40 PM, "archytas" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Nope - the cat is too smart for both us us.  I suppose being good at
> languages encourages the privileged to dismiss simple speech as requiring
> 'sophisticated' further interpretation from the half-learning of
> pop-psychology and stereotyping fantasies - this latter being a simple
> construct to provide comfort to the goodie-wannabe while she is doing it,
> as we all do.  Kierkegaard was apt to tell Christians they could not be
> such because of what they do.  The elitist always likes the secrecy of her
> own decision-making and adherence to the proper procedures in place,
> against the outcomes of rendering the victims supposedly under help
> invisible until some loud whistle breaks loose and we see a smug set of
> bureaucrats singing from the same politically correct page and being paid
> very well for their dull voices to hide the screams of the victims and
> write new legislation on the lessons learned about loud whistles.
>
> Nah! We could do with more direct talking as Pol says.  The violence has
> been done long before we start talking.  This is a very old trick of
> control.  Ungrateful as you would be, I'd rescue you from the cannibals,
> though I'd be open to argument I'd got this the wrong way round on the
> grounds of stereotyping.
>
> Religion is obviously (to some of us) about what we don't know.  It does
> not though, have to rest on what we know are fables and excuses to cover up
> false history, lousy priests - or those in other institutions who let the
> innocent down.  We have very serious problems we can't discuss in the open
> for fear of offending against the cry of 'racist' and people who can
> absolve themselves in smiling sisterhoods of prayer and language control.
>
> On Friday, February 6, 2015 at 4:34:17 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>
>> Nope
>>
>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>> Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres
>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>
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