Must admit I thought you was a boy Pol - sort of loutish but nice. When you have daughters it can be easy to wish the world more male just for a bit of peace and quiet. How did they pull off this "hidden tits" ruse in Shakespeare's day with all male actors? I hate it as a dramatic ruse, though it was good in Blackadder. Your questions are like initial statements of a possible research programme, mostly concerning one of my daughter's endless probing of what she was being told as potential bullshit. 'Are protons real like Mr Regan says'? She had religion as a complete crock early on.
People give up to one religion or another all the time under threat. Problems in the Balkans, say, are not really ethnic but to do with conversions to Islam under Ottoman rule. Yet others refuse to convert and die or carry on in secret. Scary questions might be about what we will die or be so passionate about rot. I am supposed to be proud of being British, but our history is a mix of little good and plenty foul. Plus I'd just as easily be different as the product of another culture, More "religious" stuff in nationality demands. We might be very different if we had none of the religious stuff in us. Loads of philosophers have noticed most people don't act in accordance with faith and creed. Looking out of the window seems enough. But I also think religion is like your gender 'scam'. It just isn't what it presents itself as and is some kind of attractor for social construction. Deep down it looks insect to me. And some people are so full of it and empty of other knowledge they will never have seen how complex insect societies can be when they get insulted by me saying this. We have vigilantes about on the net attracting paedophiles through false messages. I think religion acts a bit like this on people produced without much hope in the material society - and that if we could be honest, we'd find this is most of us. I'm sitting on the edge of my bed typing this, with Max running up and down stairs as a gentle hint it is walk time. Get off the white horse Gabby and Allan you stop rising to the bait. It was easier with daughters. They bothered to learn their fighting upset Daddy and decided to stop when they saw me cry. So who is godless? My daughters responding to me, or you two religionist "carers" sparing like seven year olds? On Saturday, February 7, 2015 at 6:44:29 AM UTC, pol.science kid wrote: > > It would fascinate me to meet children who don't think about God, i think > they have the most capacity for faith. Of course it might be explained > psychologically... But still, it just amazes me. I had a teacher who became > an atheist after his dad got cancer... Lots of people people with belief > sort of feel cheated when bad things happen... Would you say they never had > belief in the first place.. Its election day in my city today. Random > information. > On Feb 7, 2015 11:59 AM, "polly skid" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Sorry allan, my dad is indeed an army man, but im not his son.. Ha ha.. I >> just wanted to pursue this gender or should i say sex anonymity for as long >> as i could hoping people would imagine me as anyone they want to.. But >> gabby is my friend on Facebook and a few others as well.. >> On Feb 7, 2015 4:00 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> To my knowledge I have never attacked you. When you jump in screaming >>> someone is off topic when they in fact are not off topic.. You have a >>> problem . a serious problem.. >>> I think you need to ask poli science kidhis gender.. If my memory serves >>> me right he is the son of an army officer. >>> >>> Now my dirty little fingers? To just what are you referring to? I am not >>> the one who lists adult only sites in group email. >>> >>> Are you dictating what group emails I answer. Or respond to.. When I >>> offered to answer any private emails privately is actually open to any >>> member and I do respond privately for the simple those responses are none >>> of the groups business because they are private. >>> >>> I can take what you said as a direct threat. You really need to pull in >>> your fangs.. >>> >>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>> Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres >>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: gabbydott <[email protected]> >>> To: minds-eye <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Fri, 06 Feb 2015 10:36 PM >>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye religion >>> >>> Leave your dirty old fingers nicely here in public, Allan! And let Pol >>> find whatever she wants to find! Hear me? >>> >>> You still owe me a very huge apology for all your groundless attacking >>> me!!! Concentrate on that to keep you busy and don't hope for your buddies >>> being "distracted" as usual! >>> >>> 2015-02-06 22:16 GMT+01:00 <[email protected]>: >>> >>>> >>>> Hoi poli or should I call you kid. Eternal that is one difficult >>>> question maybe the definition is the best. Eternal Without beginning or >>>> end >>>> of existence; always existing. Definitions are a good place to start. >>>> Spirituality is a very difficult at best so common definitions are very >>>> important. >>>> >>>> Religious people for the most part are very good. Most trying to live >>>> sincere lives. And in accordance to traditional beliefs. Some of which >>>> can >>>> be very interesting. From what I have seen of Hindu festivals they could >>>> be >>>> very interesting and fun. All I can really say is enjoy .. I don't think >>>> taking part requires belief. If you are looking to find spirituality a >>>> good >>>> starting point is your native beliefs. There you strive to understand. >>>> You >>>> actually have a lot of support. >>>> The faith of a child is a beautiful sight to behold. Being religious as >>>> a child does not exclude theism. A sound belief in a personal God is what >>>> theism is about. >>>> >>>> My Dad was raised without beliefs and became R Catholic after he met my >>>> mother. His religious beliefs lasted and guided his entire lifetime. He >>>> was >>>> 94 at the time of his transition. His spiruality was really amazing. I was >>>> proud of my Dad and his beliefs. In hard times they were a guiding light.. >>>> I always knew he believed and that is a lot. >>>> >>>> Don't count out rituals. They can help you focus and get you out of the >>>> self that traps you. You will find over time therevae some amazing >>>> similarities among beliefs. >>>> If you want to talk privately my email address is open. >>>> >>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>> Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres >>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: polly skid <[email protected]> >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Sent: Fri, 06 Feb 2015 8:23 PM >>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye religion >>>> >>>> What do you think is meant by eternal? For us humans.. Thats another >>>> difficult topic... Are some people just religious? I mean is it their >>>> nature... See children are very religious..ive seen that everywhere... I >>>> was a religious kid... But then.. I just grew out of it... I know my >>>> sister >>>> was religious.. I cant say if she still is... Who has stayed religious >>>> into >>>> their adulthood.. I would like to know... My mother is one.. But im not >>>> counting her... My father has become religious... Rituals and all.. Now >>>> that he is feeling his age or something.. Thats what i think at least.. I >>>> never thought he would turn out to be religious.... What is it really?.... >>>> That explains it... Or.. Don't you think it's difficult to raise a child >>>> without the idea of God? Is it? I don't know... >>>> On Feb 6, 2015 11:40 PM, "archytas" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Nope - the cat is too smart for both us us. I suppose being good at >>>>> languages encourages the privileged to dismiss simple speech as requiring >>>>> 'sophisticated' further interpretation from the half-learning of >>>>> pop-psychology and stereotyping fantasies - this latter being a simple >>>>> construct to provide comfort to the goodie-wannabe while she is doing it, >>>>> as we all do. Kierkegaard was apt to tell Christians they could not be >>>>> such because of what they do. The elitist always likes the secrecy of >>>>> her >>>>> own decision-making and adherence to the proper procedures in place, >>>>> against the outcomes of rendering the victims supposedly under help >>>>> invisible until some loud whistle breaks loose and we see a smug set of >>>>> bureaucrats singing from the same politically correct page and being paid >>>>> very well for their dull voices to hide the screams of the victims and >>>>> write new legislation on the lessons learned about loud whistles. >>>>> >>>>> Nah! We could do with more direct talking as Pol says. The violence >>>>> has been done long before we start talking. This is a very old trick of >>>>> control. Ungrateful as you would be, I'd rescue you from the cannibals, >>>>> though I'd be open to argument I'd got this the wrong way round on the >>>>> grounds of stereotyping. >>>>> >>>>> Religion is obviously (to some of us) about what we don't know. It >>>>> does not though, have to rest on what we know are fables and excuses to >>>>> cover up false history, lousy priests - or those in other institutions >>>>> who >>>>> let the innocent down. We have very serious problems we can't discuss in >>>>> the open for fear of offending against the cry of 'racist' and people who >>>>> can absolve themselves in smiling sisterhoods of prayer and language >>>>> control. >>>>> >>>>> On Friday, February 6, 2015 at 4:34:17 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Nope >>>>>> >>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>> Évitez; assassiner, le viol et l'esclavage des autres >>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>>> Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/minds-eye/FMi0b9KMVPA/unsubscribe. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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