I know its crazy ,, reality is companies are paying for page prominence. Personally I ignore it. Oddly I had a dislike for YouTube, but realitively recently it has become of interest. It is amazing what people put online. Actually some very good explainations.
تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others -----Original Message----- From: archytas <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 5:58 PM Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: What could the internet be? The question may be how we could collate the non-dross. On Friday, February 13, 2015 at 4:57:31 PM UTC, archytas wrote: > > There are a few gems in the dross. I start something like Tony's link > with the question 'does advertising affect you'. The answer is almost > always no. Many would not get the vimeo. The obvious next question is why > so much is spent on advertising, followed by one on where all the idiots > that are influenced by it are. > > Not my sort of big data, but I know what Tony means. > > On Friday, February 13, 2015 at 4:42:31 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: >> >> LOL the dress has created modern day zombies.. Mindlessly surfing the >> internet because they can not think for themselves. >> >> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: archytas <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 5:35 PM >> Subject: Mind's Eye Re: What could the internet be? >> >> There are alternatives to things like Netflix (Amazon Prime is clearly >> just a clone) - like Indieflix, but this just plays cheaper to produce >> dross - though in principle is interesting. Discussion groups have the >> problem there is nothing to idly watch and sort of demand input. We are so >> used to watching copies of copied material, there seems little alternative >> content in us to present, and interestingly little skill in its >> representation. I think the net is short of commercial alternatives that >> aren't lowest common denominator. >> >> On Friday, February 13, 2015 at 2:41:22 PM UTC, archytas wrote: >>> >>> Most of my use of the internet concerns researching pretty dire academic >>> papers and books through still largely restricted access. It's much >>> cheaper than buying the stuff directly, particularly as 99% of what shows >>> up is dross. I've played with the rest to find out what is there. Search >>> is a big plus compared with rooting through stuff in a university library. >>> Now, much google search just turns up dross I don't want. >>> >>> In an academic project we are interested in what is on the net generally >>> - in terms of how much of general consciousness this represents. Rational >>> discussion is a tiny part of what is on the net. Techies spend a lot of >>> time looking for cut and paste code and ways we might automate this sweep. >>> There is a background idea that we are looking for new ways to do 'expert >>> knowledge' on the metaphor of people not being able to build cars but able >>> to drive them with a bit of training. My own bad is 'big data' as a new >>> language that would bring a different speed to human discourse and >>> potentially control of the means of production. >>> >>> Lately, I'm interested in the lack of a business model for anything >>> except trash. I can join a site where a couple of young women will send me >>> off-the-peg clothes on approval to ensure my sartorial elegance, though >>> don't. There are plenty of interesting Moochs, but I don't have time. I >>> bank n line and have the joy of never seeing a bank clerk. Shopping can be >>> done in the same manner as shops don't interest me at all. My insurance >>> renewals are always 30% higher than I can get the same cover for via one of >>> the broker sites on the day. >>> >>> I do electronic teaching. So I'm no longer racked by whatever diseases >>> undergraduate classes try to kill me with. And I never see a boss or have >>> to attend a useless staff meeting, or have my classes flooded as the >>> students discover I'm an easier touch and tell jokes. The work is more or >>> less pre-prepared and my timetable is not changed at ridiculous short >>> notice and I don't have to take time to teach kids from other classes, at >>> my door because they can't get anywhere with the guy supposed to help. >>> >>> I can watch television and films through illegal sites, but would really >>> prefer to pay for channels where I could select from much wider material >>> without packaging. The current business model encourages loads of channels >>> with the same (usually old) dross, or stuff like Netflix with only 1% I'd >>> want to see and don't want to pay to support. Sports channels require me >>> to pay for soccer I don't want. Tony has done more for me in a few minutes >>> (neglecting his production time) than Sky Arts bores ever could. We lack a >>> business model of actual choice. With one, insanestream news and other >>> entertainment, the crap science pornography of the BBC, Discovery and so >>> on, would be things of my past. In chronic business terms, I wonder how >>> they do market segmentation at all. I am sick of Blue Peter (kids >>> programme here) presentation. >>> >>> One can imagine plenty of people like the best through this group >>> wanting something very different and something large enough not to be a >>> part of when time presses and so on. Uber, properly supervised against >>> racist drivers, could bring very radical change - I meet few who can >>> explain why - though we have not yet worked out that technology could >>> massively reduce what we currently call work and planet burning. In the >>> meantime we can't even set up a discussion group without Gabby (and >>> everyone really) worrying on the curtain shades. Give us a twirl then >>> girl, like one of those doxies Bruce Forsythe used to encourage. I can see >>> something of a business model, starting with Chris' 'attractors'. The >>> eventual key is content for a sophisticated audience - remembering very few >>> people do education without any kind of accreditation pay-off and the means >>> to pay for organisation does not move easily from free. Current strategies >>> are advertising and the begging bowl. >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> ""Minds Eye"" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
