Tricky multi-meaning word.  One desires to be in the presence of god in an 
afterlife - making it a future term.  We use it instead of charisma - she 
has presence.  And there is a long history of philosophy of presence.  I 
take presence in a more general sense of what we are not aware we have 
placed outside our designs in our virtual appreciation.  The words get 
tough, but there is an 'unsensed' we can 'touch'.

On Tuesday, February 24, 2015 at 7:50:53 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>
> Ben doing a lot of thinking about presence since it became a realization 
> for me. oddly when I kind of need some escapism or just diversion I turn to 
> the ' I Ching ' for something to think about.  Originally  it was a book 
> today I have an electronic version. 
>
> I am still amazed at the spiritual insights written thousands of years 
> ago.. 
>
> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others

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