I am not so much interested in an after life as in this life a day to day
idea.
After life seems like hollow empty promises people make to control others.
The presence of God is heaven for me..  The soul dies not die  so how can
there be an after life?
On Feb 25, 2015 1:01 AM, "archytas" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Tricky multi-meaning word.  One desires to be in the presence of god in an
> afterlife - making it a future term.  We use it instead of charisma - she
> has presence.  And there is a long history of philosophy of presence.  I
> take presence in a more general sense of what we are not aware we have
> placed outside our designs in our virtual appreciation.  The words get
> tough, but there is an 'unsensed' we can 'touch'.
>
> On Tuesday, February 24, 2015 at 7:50:53 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>
>> Ben doing a lot of thinking about presence since it became a realization
>> for me. oddly when I kind of need some escapism or just diversion I turn to
>> the ' I Ching ' for something to think about.  Originally  it was a book
>> today I have an electronic version.
>>
>> I am still amazed at the spiritual insights written thousands of years
>> ago..
>>
>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>
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