There must be a worshipful order of muckspreaders somewhere Molly.  I think 
we know the lodge queen.

On Tuesday, March 3, 2015 at 12:55:39 PM UTC, Molly wrote:
>
> Like John Wayne I take no guff. I would add "so shoot me" but wouldn't 
> want you to waste a bullet. Communication in Chris' model, takes into 
> account the speaker and the listener. Where and how we enter or don't is a 
> personal choice we all make to contribute to the quality of the 
> conversation. Group dynamic develops when the group can begin to work 
> efficiently and effectively given the make up. Maybe we are all doing the 
> best we can given the circumstances, but I think going after each other or 
> pointing out perceived faults of others contributes to the dynamic 
> deterioration and presents barriers to a higher quality communication. We 
> can waste our time flinging muck, or get on with the discussion.
>
> On Monday, March 2, 2015 at 10:43:56 PM UTC-5, archytas wrote:
>
> Humour of all kinds is generally good for us RP, but only in opening up 
> how ridiculous seriousness can be.  Generally we shouldn't take it as far 
> as dancing on graves.  I appreciate you as a straight talker.
>
> Arrogance and violence are often 'inertial', already individually and 
> socially constructed before something we might recognise as a speech act. 
>  Molly does have a kind of 'back off' stick, though we all choose or have 
> different routes and protective devices forced on us.  I have not been 
> looking for god in science (though the presence is there in many, perhaps 
> limiting ways).  I am not keen on anything based on holy script reverence. 
>  One feels, and this is not crude libidinal stuff, in what one thinks, and 
> this links to others who seek.  The presence for me is the possibility of a 
> shift away from the co-evolutionary arms race, maybe even the cu
>
> ...

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