Is there any job you haven't done?; p ... I am deeply suspicious of pet food. Especially cos it's so expensive... On Mar 3, 2015 6:07 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
> It has been going on for years.. sadly getting nowhere. > Mostly attention seeking blow hards.. that is not saying what they have to > say is wrong because it is correct.. there in lies the problem .. years > ago the air force wanted convert the sir base into a refueling station. > That requires a couple hearings mandated by law. The first hearing was > interesting several hundred lip flappers having their say.. the second hear > actually turned our much more interesting.. when the hearing asked for > those objecting i was the only one who raised their hand.. > > Turned out the bases head if security and i went to the same church. Ended > up being treated to dinner and a long conversation.. turns out we all > agreed that if citizens don't object the military would take over.. was a > very enjoyable evening.. > > تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين > Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others > > -----Original Message----- > From: archytas <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tue, 03 Mar 2015 12:29 PM > Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Ten Commandments For Modern Americans > > The writer is one of a set of US lefties Allan. The best of them is a guy > called Steve Fraser. Thought you should know more people are up to sig > line writing somewhat more puffed up than yours. > > Hard to describe our house a veggie with two dogs and a cat, but we don't > eat much meat. Not really much use as commandments are they? > > On Tuesday, March 3, 2015 at 9:42:24 AM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: >> >> Can you write down verbatim what was said.. or is the writer pointing >> fingers at everyone else? >> I am not saying what is said is wrong.. it is mostly lip flapping. >> Pointing mostly at government activities.. there is one small flaw there >> he is the government becoming guilty as he charges others.. >> For got his lip flapping already >> >> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: archytas <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Tue, 03 Mar 2015 6:22 AM >> Subject: Mind's Eye Ten Commandments For Modern Americans >> >> *1. Thou shalt not torture:* Torture of every horrific sort in these >> years seems to have beenremarkably ineffective >> <http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/cia-torture-report/senate-report-finds-cia-interrogation-tactics-were-ineffective-n264621> >> in >> producing useful information for the state. Even if it were proved >> effective >> <http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/22/opinion/sunday/did-the-torture-report-give-the-cia-a-bum-rap.html> >> in >> breaking up al-Qaeda plots, however, it would still have been both a >> desperately illegal (if unpunished >> <http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/31/us/holder-rules-out-prosecutions-in-cia-interrogations.html>) >> act and a foreign policy disaster of the first order. >> >> *2. Thou shalt not send drones to assassinate anyone, American or not:* The >> ongoing U.S. drone assassination campaigns >> <http://www.tomdispatch.com/blog/175936/tomgram%3A_engelhardt,_the_national_security_state_%22works,%22_even_if_nothing_it_does_works/>, >> while killing individual terrorists, have driven significant numbers of >> people in the backlands of the planet into the arms of terror outfits and >> so only increased their size and appeal. Without a doubt, such drone >> strikes represent a global war of, not on, terror. In the process, they >> have turned the president into our assassin-in-chief >> <http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/175551/> and us into an assassin nation. >> >> *3. Thou shalt not invade another country:* D'oh! >> >> *4. Thou shalt not occupy another country:* By the way, how did that >> work out the last two times the U.S. tried it? >> >> *5. Thou shalt not upgrade thy nuclear arsenal:* The U.S. has now >> committed itself to atrillion-dollar >> <http://thediplomat.com/2014/01/us-to-spend-1-trillion-on-nukes/>, >> decades-long upgrade of its vast arsenal. If any significant portion of it >> were ever used, it would end human life as we know it on this planet and so >> should be considered a singular prospective crime against humanity. After >> years in which the only American nuclear focus was on a country -- Iran -- >> with no nuclear weapons, that this has happened without serious debate >> <http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/175933/tomgram%3A_james_carroll,_the_pentagon_as_president_obama%27s_great_white_whale/> >> or >> discussion is in itself criminal. >> >> *6.* *Thou shalt not intercept the communications of thy citizens or >> others all over the world or pursue the elaboration of a global >> surveillance state based on criminal acts*: There seems to be no place >> <https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/02/19/great-sim-heist/> the NSA >> has been unwilling to break into in order to surveil the planet. For >> unimaginable >> reams <http://www.wired.com/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/all/> of >> information that have seemingly been of next to no >> <http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/175901/tomgram%3A_engelhardt,_entering_the_intelligence_labyrinth/> >> actual >> use, the NSA and the national security state have essentially outlawed >> privacy and cracked open various amendments to the Constitution. No >> information is worth such a price. >> >> *7. Thou shalt not be free of punishment for crimes of state:* In these >> years of genuine criminality, official Washington has become a crime-free >> zone >> <http://www.tomdispatch.com/blog/175833/tomgram%3A_engelhardt,_knowledge_is_crime/>. >> No matter the seriousness of the act, none -- not one committed in the name >> of the state in the post-9/11 era, no matter how heinous -- has been >> brought into a courtroom. >> >> *8. Thou shalt not use a massive system of secret classification to >> deprive Americans of all real knowledge of acts of state:* In 2011, the >> U.S. classified 92 million documents >> <http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/175570/tomgram%3A_engelhardt,_the_national_security_complex_and_you/> >> and >> the shroud of secrecy over the business of the “people’s” government has >> only grown worse in the years since. Increasingly, for our own “safety” we >> are only supposed to know what the government prefers us to know. This >> represents, of course, a crime against democracy. >> >> *9. Thou shalt not act punitively toward those who want to let Americans >> in on what the national security state is doing in their name:* The >> fierce >> <https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/02/18/destroyed-by-the-espionage-act/> >> and draconian >> <http://www.tomdispatch.com/blog/175500/tomgram%3A_peter_van_buren,_in_washington,_fear_the_silence,_not_the_noise/> >> campaign >> the Obama administration has launched against leakers and whistleblowers is >> unprecedented in our history. It is a growing challenge >> <http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/175856/tomgram%3A_peter_van_buren,_rip,_the_bill_of_rights/> >> to >> freedom of the press and to the citizen’s right to know. >> >> *10. Thou shalt not infringe on the rights of the citizenry to life, >> liberty, and the pursuit of happiness:* Need I even explain? >> >> >> Tom Englehart >> >> -- >> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> ""Minds Eye"" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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