No wait a minute the title of "Grumpy old man" is mine..  no stealing.. lol 
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تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others

-----Original Message-----
From: archytas <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 4:04 PM
Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Games?

So age is irrelevant and then relevant as good insights only come with age. 
 Some of us just get more grumpy.  

On Wednesday, March 11, 2015 at 2:44:52 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>
> I figured that out she voted in the '50's I could not vote for a decade 
> later.. Age has nothing to do with anything..  she always had good insights 
> that comes only with age, that is very enjoyable..
>
> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: archytas <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 3:38 PM
> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Games?
>
> I doubt starting off by saying she is at least a decade older than you 
> would be the best start Allan.  We are in touch most days.
>
> On Wednesday, March 11, 2015 at 2:15:14 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>
>> I miss rigsy. When in contact give her my greetings.. both emails still 
>> work  and i would enjoy hearing from her..
>>
>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: archytas <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Sent: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 2:46 PM
>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Games?
>>
>> Rigsy is still about Allan.  She is on a genetic quest too.  It seems we 
>> share a highland connection some time after Gabby's grass porridge lot came 
>> with agriculture 3000 years ago.  Rigs comes from the MacDonalds, my lot 
>> were MacArthars - though at some earlier point we must have been MacGabby. 
>> Rigs is still cleaning her own windows and quite easily has me wishing I'd 
>> been a few years older.
>>
>> Hope is so obviously the splendid person Allan imagines, with the surf 
>> rising as she smiles, as Tony implies.  Indeed, she already has us playing 
>> ring-a-ring-of-roses, the traditional plague celebration of my youth.  I 
>> am, as I'm sure she knows, missing Gabby already. It's a sort of Daniel in 
>> the lion's den sort of thing, where you have to keep putting the thorn back 
>> in to bring her back.  Sure, you soon realise she is putting the thorn back 
>> in while you sleep, but this is surely just part of some fairytale she 
>> tells to inform one of Nietzsche's eternal return.  Now she is working on 
>> Hume's concept of self in her lair (surely 'retreat'?).  And what Hope we 
>> have been given.
>>
>> The war games are educational.  It depends on how one looks at them.  For 
>> me, unless on a killing spree with Gabbyraptor, including women in short 
>> leather skirts and our Russian Zombie allies against the evil machines (see 
>> earlier photos) - these games are an example of the fetish of the current 
>> Utopia of Rules and the secret pleasures of bureaucracy.  The games model 
>> bureaucracy to a 'T'.  If only Gabby were here we could get a linguistic 
>> understanding of what a 'T' is.  Hope will no doubt offer her new 
>> therapy-educational gaming to help with my Gabby-withdrawal symptoms.  A 
>> cake at the Cafe Atopia perhaps, rather than a tour of the Bullshit Bingo 
>> (TM) board?
>>
>> Hope has already started our needed re-education with an interesting 
>> gambit on the internet self.  I welcome the sunshine unconditionally, 
>> though it's overcast here and the nation is mourning the demise of our 
>> leading boystoys presenter, suspending for chinning a BBC producer.  Some 
>> of us welcome the sunshine that will come with the absence of Top Gear for 
>> three weeks - though with this now first-up news we are seeing even more of 
>> Jeremy Clarkson.
>>
>> Gabby was prone to instruct us to do all the work on her suggestions 
>> Hope.  One hopes you will lead us by example, explicating an exegesis of 
>> your own ideas.   Bureaucracies create games that are in no sense fun, and 
>> it would be good to see what you mean by educational content and 
>> aspiration.  Indeed, Mind's Eye could become such a game.  In loving memory 
>> of Gabby, for surely forgiveness is educational, and in your beaming new 
>> presence, we might give Thiedy Bears as prizes.  Perhaps an early boss 
>> fight could be between Allan and Gabby, involving overcoming the bully 
>> through educational means.  I volunteer to write the scene, if I can be 
>> drawn away from cuddling my Thiedy Bear - assuming I can retrieve it from 
>> the dogs' bed.  Allan will triumph through attribution study, extreme value 
>> analysis and conclusive proof of global warming.  To add spice, the Hope 
>> Sunshine surfboard will help in slaying the anti-educational Bokoharam 
>> vampires.
>>
>> Hope Floats was a movie I intended to send to Gabby for educational 
>> purposes.  I think it had Sandra Bullock in it and couldn't stomach 
>> watching it myself.  The educational purpose, of course, was that if the 
>> bullying ceased I would send no further examples of American waterboarding. 
>>  Now we have Hope to re-educate Gabby, such dire measures may not be needed.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 11, 2015 at 8:48:18 AM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>>
>>> Rigs is older than I am by at least a decade. I have no idea as to what 
>>> is happening with her but i think her children placed her in a nursing 
>>> home..  
>>> As for Pat.  I have not heard from him personally in a long long time.. 
>>> I tried contacting his publisher with no results..  i always like Pat  and 
>>> miss both of them very much
>>> .
>>>
>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Hope Sunshine <[email protected]>
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Sent: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 8:31 AM
>>> Subject: Mind's Eye Re: Games?
>>>
>>> Oh yes Rigs! And maybe you will also find Pat somewhere there! They were 
>>> forgotten on the list of dearly missed former members of Minds Eye. Thanks 
>>> for bringing her up again. :-)
>>>
>>> Am Mittwoch, 11. März 2015 01:16:38 UTC+1 schrieb archytas:
>>>>
>>>> It would be handy to have Gabby along to play Grand Theft Auto.  Die 
>>>> neuen Farben würde uns in San Andreus getötet.  You sound a safer :bet for 
>>>> the hot coffee mod Hope, but down and dirty playing in cop mode given my 
>>>> relevant experience, I would need Gabby's steel to balance my good cop 
>>>> routines with her bullet-spraying mayhem.  And really, for GTA, Hope goes 
>>>> to bed too early.  
>>>>
>>>> I am sure Gabby, as a democratic bully, would insist on spin the bottle 
>>>> to choose game partners, so I'm watching the BBC's second episode on 
>>>> women's emancipation in case I have to team up with Hope to gain some 'new 
>>>> man' conversation.  Gabby, of course, would slap any such rot down as a 
>>>> flagrant attempt to get inside her head by bewitchment and far too wimpy 
>>>> for a real man.  Bully is a wimp version of GTA with bicycles, so she 
>>>> wouldn't play that anyway.  Should I have to take this assignment, we 
>>>> would 
>>>> speak German to sound more menacing and ensure her standard corruption of 
>>>> anything I say was genuinely a matter of lost in translation.  Other teams 
>>>> might pull out at the beginning if the dream team killers were put 
>>>> together 
>>>> by the bottle spin, though with luck the Gabbseraptor (her screen name in 
>>>> Dark Spore) would soon enter a killing loop with Allan's dead body and the 
>>>> rest of us could follow Molly in pacifying the neighbourhood through 
>>>> self-development.
>>>>
>>>> Should the group be prepared to take on this mission impossible, Hope 
>>>> Sunshine will fade to rain in five seconds.  On the whole, I have decided 
>>>> on a previous engagement in Philadelphia, of preferably Rigsy's cooking 
>>>> and 
>>>> a bottle of malt.
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, March 10, 2015 at 10:43:11 PM UTC, archytas wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Having fun would be a good idea.  Don't we know you already?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, March 10, 2015 at 10:31:56 PM UTC, Hope Sunshine wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good night everyone, see you back tomorrow. :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am Dienstag, 10. März 2015 23:29:51 UTC+1 schrieb Hope Sunshine
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey, everyone! I think it could do us all good to start having more 
>>>>>>> fun and be more relaxed. Life is too short to constantly quarrel about 
>>>>>>> ultimately unnecessary things. So how about some edutainment? Does 
>>>>>>> anyone 
>>>>>>> know some games that are both fun to play and educational at the same 
>>>>>>> time? 
>>>>>>> I just stumbled over the game "Bully" but thought that might be not 
>>>>>>> such a 
>>>>>>> good idea at the moment... haha ... no, how about some serious games. 
>>>>>>> Anyone any recommendations? 
>>>>>>>
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