Two grumpy old men reaffirming themselves they are not. Hahaha. You two are
really funny. And educational. ;-)

On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 6:46 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:

> Dangermouse has agreed to take the job when he gets back off holiday in a
> few weeks.  I'd do it myself, but you know how ungrateful she gets when you
> try to do something nice for her, like the endless hours of teasing I put
> in so she could play 'whackamole'.  One could rescue her from Grendle and
> she'd claim you;d interrupted a sisterly embrace.  Been a while since we
> sailed with Beowulf.  Do you think we are still up for it?  And who would
> feed the dogs?  We could ask Hope - she's a ray of sunshine, after all.
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 11, 2015 at 5:14:33 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>
>> No, they have seemed to have severed all links including back doors,
>> windows and vents. . . .  sorry
>>
>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: archytas <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Sent: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 6:05 PM
>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Games?
>>
>> I fear Gabby may have been abducted by a cloner.  We should really hire a
>> rescue team.  How about International Rescue?  I did phone, but they said
>> the Thunderbirds weren't go because all the pilots were celebrating.  Do
>> you still have influence on Tracy Island?
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 11, 2015 at 4:20:52 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>>
>>> LOL (",)
>>>
>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: archytas <[email protected]>
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Sent: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 4:58 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Games?
>>>
>>> Don't even rocking horses snort Allan?  Sniffing is a bit wimpy.  Fear
>>> not dear chap, you were the original on which we are all modelled.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 11, 2015 at 3:42:31 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Darn  I thought was unique..   now you are telling me i am nothing more
>>>> than a clone..  what more demeaning can be said.  I am no longer special..
>>>> sniff no longer have a high horse to ride. sniff sniff
>>>>
>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]>
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Sent: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 4:27 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Games?
>>>>
>>>> No theft needed old chap - we can clone it now!
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, March 11, 2015 at 3:21:32 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> No wait a minute the title of "Grumpy old man" is mine..  no
>>>>> stealing.. lol (",) ♡
>>>>>
>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Sent: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 4:04 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Games?
>>>>>
>>>>> So age is irrelevant and then relevant as good insights only come with
>>>>> age.  Some of us just get more grumpy.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, March 11, 2015 at 2:44:52 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I figured that out she voted in the '50's I could not vote for a
>>>>>> decade later.. Age has nothing to do with anything..  she always had good
>>>>>> insights that comes only with age, that is very enjoyable..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]>
>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>> Sent: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 3:38 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Games?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I doubt starting off by saying she is at least a decade older than
>>>>>> you would be the best start Allan.  We are in touch most days.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 11, 2015 at 2:15:14 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I miss rigsy. When in contact give her my greetings.. both emails
>>>>>>> still work  and i would enjoy hearing from her..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>> Sent: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 2:46 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Games?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rigsy is still about Allan.  She is on a genetic quest too.  It
>>>>>>> seems we share a highland connection some time after Gabby's grass 
>>>>>>> porridge
>>>>>>> lot came with agriculture 3000 years ago.  Rigs comes from the 
>>>>>>> MacDonalds,
>>>>>>> my lot were MacArthars - though at some earlier point we must have been
>>>>>>> MacGabby. Rigs is still cleaning her own windows and quite easily has me
>>>>>>> wishing I'd been a few years older.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hope is so obviously the splendid person Allan imagines, with the
>>>>>>> surf rising as she smiles, as Tony implies.  Indeed, she already has us
>>>>>>> playing ring-a-ring-of-roses, the traditional plague celebration of my
>>>>>>> youth.  I am, as I'm sure she knows, missing Gabby already. It's a sort 
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> Daniel in the lion's den sort of thing, where you have to keep putting 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> thorn back in to bring her back.  Sure, you soon realise she is putting 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> thorn back in while you sleep, but this is surely just part of some
>>>>>>> fairytale she tells to inform one of Nietzsche's eternal return.  Now 
>>>>>>> she
>>>>>>> is working on Hume's concept of self in her lair (surely 'retreat'?).  
>>>>>>> And
>>>>>>> what Hope we have been given.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The war games are educational.  It depends on how one looks at
>>>>>>> them.  For me, unless on a killing spree with Gabbyraptor, including 
>>>>>>> women
>>>>>>> in short leather skirts and our Russian Zombie allies against the evil
>>>>>>> machines (see earlier photos) - these games are an example of the 
>>>>>>> fetish of
>>>>>>> the current Utopia of Rules and the secret pleasures of bureaucracy.  
>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>> games model bureaucracy to a 'T'.  If only Gabby were here we could get 
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> linguistic understanding of what a 'T' is.  Hope will no doubt offer her
>>>>>>> new therapy-educational gaming to help with my Gabby-withdrawal 
>>>>>>> symptoms.
>>>>>>> A cake at the Cafe Atopia perhaps, rather than a tour of the Bullshit 
>>>>>>> Bingo
>>>>>>> (TM) board?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hope has already started our needed re-education with an interesting
>>>>>>> gambit on the internet self.  I welcome the sunshine unconditionally,
>>>>>>> though it's overcast here and the nation is mourning the demise of our
>>>>>>> leading boystoys presenter, suspending for chinning a BBC producer.  
>>>>>>> Some
>>>>>>> of us welcome the sunshine that will come with the absence of Top Gear 
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> three weeks - though with this now first-up news we are seeing even 
>>>>>>> more of
>>>>>>> Jeremy Clarkson.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gabby was prone to instruct us to do all the work on her suggestions
>>>>>>> Hope.  One hopes you will lead us by example, explicating an exegesis of
>>>>>>> your own ideas.   Bureaucracies create games that are in no sense fun, 
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> it would be good to see what you mean by educational content and
>>>>>>> aspiration.  Indeed, Mind's Eye could become such a game.  In loving 
>>>>>>> memory
>>>>>>> of Gabby, for surely forgiveness is educational, and in your beaming new
>>>>>>> presence, we might give Thiedy Bears as prizes.  Perhaps an early boss
>>>>>>> fight could be between Allan and Gabby, involving overcoming the bully
>>>>>>> through educational means.  I volunteer to write the scene, if I can be
>>>>>>> drawn away from cuddling my Thiedy Bear - assuming I can retrieve it 
>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>> the dogs' bed.  Allan will triumph through attribution study, extreme 
>>>>>>> value
>>>>>>> analysis and conclusive proof of global warming.  To add spice, the Hope
>>>>>>> Sunshine surfboard will help in slaying the anti-educational Bokoharam
>>>>>>> vampires.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hope Floats was a movie I intended to send to Gabby for educational
>>>>>>> purposes.  I think it had Sandra Bullock in it and couldn't stomach
>>>>>>> watching it myself.  The educational purpose, of course, was that if the
>>>>>>> bullying ceased I would send no further examples of American
>>>>>>> waterboarding.  Now we have Hope to re-educate Gabby, such dire measures
>>>>>>> may not be needed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 11, 2015 at 8:48:18 AM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rigs is older than I am by at least a decade. I have no idea as to
>>>>>>>> what is happening with her but i think her children placed her in a 
>>>>>>>> nursing
>>>>>>>> home..
>>>>>>>> As for Pat.  I have not heard from him personally in a long long
>>>>>>>> time.. I tried contacting his publisher with no results..  i always 
>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>> Pat  and miss both of them very much
>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Hope Sunshine <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 8:31 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Mind's Eye Re: Games?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Oh yes Rigs! And maybe you will also find Pat somewhere there! They
>>>>>>>> were forgotten on the list of dearly missed former members of Minds 
>>>>>>>> Eye.
>>>>>>>> Thanks for bringing her up again. :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am Mittwoch, 11. März 2015 01:16:38 UTC+1 schrieb archytas:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It would be handy to have Gabby along to play Grand Theft Auto.
>>>>>>>>> Die neuen Farben würde uns in San Andreus getötet.  You sound a safer 
>>>>>>>>> :bet
>>>>>>>>> for the hot coffee mod Hope, but down and dirty playing in cop mode 
>>>>>>>>> given
>>>>>>>>> my relevant experience, I would need Gabby's steel to balance my good 
>>>>>>>>> cop
>>>>>>>>> routines with her bullet-spraying mayhem.  And really, for GTA, Hope 
>>>>>>>>> goes
>>>>>>>>> to bed too early.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am sure Gabby, as a democratic bully, would insist on spin the
>>>>>>>>> bottle to choose game partners, so I'm watching the BBC's second 
>>>>>>>>> episode on
>>>>>>>>> women's emancipation in case I have to team up with Hope to gain some 
>>>>>>>>> 'new
>>>>>>>>> man' conversation.  Gabby, of course, would slap any such rot down as 
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> flagrant attempt to get inside her head by bewitchment and far too 
>>>>>>>>> wimpy
>>>>>>>>> for a real man.  Bully is a wimp version of GTA with bicycles, so she
>>>>>>>>> wouldn't play that anyway.  Should I have to take this assignment, we 
>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>> speak German to sound more menacing and ensure her standard 
>>>>>>>>> corruption of
>>>>>>>>> anything I say was genuinely a matter of lost in translation.  Other 
>>>>>>>>> teams
>>>>>>>>> might pull out at the beginning if the dream team killers were put 
>>>>>>>>> together
>>>>>>>>> by the bottle spin, though with luck the Gabbseraptor (her screen 
>>>>>>>>> name in
>>>>>>>>> Dark Spore) would soon enter a killing loop with Allan's dead body 
>>>>>>>>> and the
>>>>>>>>> rest of us could follow Molly in pacifying the neighbourhood through
>>>>>>>>> self-development.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Should the group be prepared to take on this mission impossible,
>>>>>>>>> Hope Sunshine will fade to rain in five seconds.  On the whole, I have
>>>>>>>>> decided on a previous engagement in Philadelphia, of preferably 
>>>>>>>>> Rigsy's
>>>>>>>>> cooking and a bottle of malt.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 10, 2015 at 10:43:11 PM UTC, archytas wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Having fun would be a good idea.  Don't we know you already?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 10, 2015 at 10:31:56 PM UTC, Hope Sunshine
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Good night everyone, see you back tomorrow. :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Am Dienstag, 10. März 2015 23:29:51 UTC+1 schrieb Hope Sunshine
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey, everyone! I think it could do us all good to start having
>>>>>>>>>>>> more fun and be more relaxed. Life is too short to constantly 
>>>>>>>>>>>> quarrel about
>>>>>>>>>>>> ultimately unnecessary things. So how about some edutainment? Does 
>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone
>>>>>>>>>>>> know some games that are both fun to play and educational at the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> same time?
>>>>>>>>>>>> I just stumbled over the game "Bully" but thought that might be 
>>>>>>>>>>>> not such a
>>>>>>>>>>>> good idea at the moment... haha ... no, how about some serious 
>>>>>>>>>>>> games.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone any recommendations?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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