I see Vam is very much happier these days now that he has switched to publishing his written out interior monologue without any disturbances by more modern theoreticians. I am happy for him, happy with you and happy for myself this way. [?][?][?]
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 7:48 AM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > Vam used to call my posts "imaginings", but I found that most of my > thinking was connected to modern theories. My thoughts were based on my > logic and my logic might have been sometimes mere imaginings but mostly my > views are amply substantiated by modern day scientific hypotheses. > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 10:21 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > >> These days imagination is recognised as playing a central role in human >> thought, from planning and creativity to memory and problem-solving. It >> protects our mental health and may even be the fragile foundation on which >> human society is built. It's thought making up imaginary worlds may be >> essential in maintaining our health. According to Steven Mithen, an >> anthropologist at the University of Reading, UK, who specialises in the >> evolution of the mind, seven key changes were needed to allow the emergence >> of human imagination as we know it. Each happened for other purposes, the >> first three in our distant ancestors, but the final four exclusively to >> Homo sapiens - though we think other animals imagine. >> >> 1 Theory of mind >> >> What is it? The knowledge that others have beliefs and thoughts that are >> different from one's own. Probably evolved in response to larger social >> groups >> >> How does it support imagination? Allows "thought experiments" about >> thoughts and behaviours of others >> >> 2 Human life history >> >> What is it? A long period of infant helplessness plus an extended >> childhood and adolescence. May have evolved to resolve the conflict between >> bipedalism – which narrows the pelvis – and large brain size >> >> How does it support imagination? Enables an extended period with no adult >> responsibilities, giving the opportunity for imaginative play. Teenage >> ends at about 25 in physical terms. >> >> 3 Specialised intelligence >> >> What is it? The evolution of dedicated mental modules to deal with >> specific types of thought or behaviour >> >> How does it support imagination? Allows the combination of different >> types of knowledge or ways of thinking to create new ideas >> >> 4 Language >> >> What is it? Strictly speaking, a system of words and grammatical rules. >> Mithen argues that only Homo sapiens evolved true language >> >> How does it support imagination? Enables the creation, sharing and >> elaboration of ideas that couldn't have been conceived of in a single human >> mind >> >> 5 Cognitive fluidity >> >> What is it? Using language to more efficiently combine specialist >> knowledge across cognitive domains >> >> How does it support imagination? Allows the creation of novel thoughts >> and ideas including metaphors and symbols >> >> 6 The extended mind >> >> What is it? The use of technologies such as writing and computer chips to >> store and share ideas >> >> How does it support imagination? Allows existing ideas to be built on and >> improved >> >> 7 Sedentary lifestyle >> >> What is it? The transition from nomadic hunter-gathering to settled >> farming lifestyles >> >> How does it support imagination? Through a massive expansion of the >> shared, extended mind and also the creation of food surpluses so >> individuals could spend time on creative pursuits >> >> >> This doesn't really define imagination, but does suggest it is not as >> much 'in brain' as we have traditionally imagined. Memories used by the >> imagination are often fractured and not accurate and it can be difficult to >> separate memory and imagination. This is the beginning of the scientific >> view of imagination and at some point we start to see links with Molly's >> mystics and the intuition RP mentions in what we normally term >> hypothetico-deductive method. >> >> >> >> On Thursday, March 12, 2015 at 2:40:45 AM UTC, archytas wrote: >>> >>> Ah Hope! What an imagined blessing to us all you are. >>> >>> Molly has written fairly extensively on imagination, including such as a >>> coming transparent world, an old religious theme she handles much better >>> than some famous texts (More, Bentham) and without grim fundamentalist >>> overtones of a promotion of virtue and prevention of vice squad. One could >>> start in Hope's lovely circles of all being imagination in an imagination >>> world - the modal logic view of David Lewis and Nelson Goodman on ,many >>> possible worlds. I'm sure Hope will give us a long treatise on this now >>> Gabby isn't about to bully everyone and Allan has been castigated and is >>> trying to be a good boy. There does seem something of a flaw in the many >>> world Hope hypothesis, as every possible world Hope is in contains >>> Gabby-bullying questions. This is remarkably dull and unimaginative. >>> >>> On Thursday, March 12, 2015 at 12:05:47 AM UTC, Hope Sunshine wrote: >>>> >>>> Ultimately all is imagination in a world of imagination. What was it >>>> that facilitator said about imagination? Surely we can melt all that >>>> matters to us to one bowl. We could need some clarifying words from you >>>> over in the bully conversation. Can I invite you to take a look there too? >>>> >>>> Am Mittwoch, 11. März 2015 22:41:56 UTC+1 schrieb Molly: >>>>> >>>>> I have been thinking about something facilitator said about >>>>> imagination a few days back and wonder what everyone thinks about it. >>>>> Contemporary christian mystics like Neville Goddard, Joel Goldsmith and >>>>> Ralph Waldo Trine think it is the crucible of consciousness so to speak. I >>>>> also think it is important in the way we shape the world we live in, using >>>>> it for thought, inspiration, creativity and even memory. If we are both >>>>> finite and infinite, I think imagination helps us bridge that gap. 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