I have an internal movie screen, though its presence is intermittent, sometimes glorious and once traumatic. The way we process information has multiple logics, including the way memory is not accurate in order to let us put different jigsaw pictures together for multiple futures. The universe itself may be doing something like this, with some having time backwards.
In a more simple way, imagination allows us to think things through, and personally I try what seems a reverse of Molly's embodiment - that of the embodiment of the human in machine. The idea is not to create androids, but rather imagination that can take us past current limitations and provide enhancement for human being. Imagination is one way to test in virtual reality and not get one's fingers burned. There are accounts of how experiencing a Van Gogh played a role in constructing the model of a galaxy. I even see similarities between Molly's treatment of non-believers and attempts to make the semantic web compatible in difference. Fascinated by kaleidoscopes as a kid. Fascinated later by how machines could repeat simple equations at vast speed and produce patterns (fractals, chaos) doing something so mundane, yet rather like all 7 billion of us putting different number values into 2x = y at the same time and linking up the pattern. Imagination has a lot to do with pattern spotting. If Molly looks to spiritual awakening, I tend to look for cosmic code. Her methods may be introspective, but what was more introspective than Socrates' claim the knowledge was already in there and could be found through the right questions? I look out, though suspect these distinctions lapse in good sense, compassion and non-jealous integration. Tony turns some plumbing pipes and a mask into a static 'creature' that 'moves' with perspective and focus. I let it ride in my mind - though I could just hate him for his talent (I don't). I more the kind of chap who would borrow any left over pipe to keep the washing machine running. Any looking out is always experienced in the internal-virtual. We think the universe is beige. Space may be fluidic, elastic (more Hooke than Newton), potentially catapult-like so we could evade the limitations of space-time by standing still in moving space. Imaging outwards was a William Blake theme - http://ttj.sagepub.com/content/25/4/495.full.pdf - dramatic unveiling of the inter- action of varied human personalities, with its gradual focusing of atten- tion upon the two major protagonists, and with its brilliantly skillful dis- closure of a symbolism which leads the imagination outwards in widening ... experiments in gender, both socially and artistically, can remind us all of the constant bravery necessary to force the universe of the imagination outwards. Albert Einstein suggested that the elusive, additional element needed for high achievement in science is a "state of feeling" in the researcher, which he called "akin to that of the religious worship per or of one who is in love," arising not from a deliberate decision or program but from a personal necessity. Others are more down to earth. With eloquent simplicity P. W. Bridgman wrote, "The scientific method, as far as it is a method, is nothing more than doing one's damnedest with one's mind, no holds barred." But as good as they are, neither remark nor the occasional anecdotal confession is much help for discovering what we are after. Peter Medawar put it this way, though a bit harshly: "It is of no use looking to scientific papers, for they not merely conceal but actively misrepresent the reasoning that goes into the work they describe... .Only unstudied evidence will do-and that means listening at the keyhole." Free paper here - http://eppl604-autism-and-creativity.wmwikis.net/file/view/20013446.pdf/201762974/20013446.pdf Of course, imagining anyone will read so as to shake themselves from non-participation is imaginary. The self-importance of the petty gossip may be rather like a rabbit hole world. What we can imagine has already been warped by what is so easy to soak up from the 'garbage in' system, including not being able to get over oneself as the centre of the universe. I was taught about the irrational and spasmodic nature of science from books written in and before the 60's. Molly is closer to this than the frauds pretending science is rational. On Friday, March 13, 2015 at 12:02:58 PM UTC, Molly wrote: > > The idea of embodied imagination (Jungian) introduces the notion that > through dreams, imagination presents us with a complete reality that is > different from our waking reality, not constrained by logic or rationality, > and based more on our individual archetypal system of symbols. My latest > thinking is that we carry this system into our waking conscious life, but > are less aware of it because of the constraints our rationality imposes > when awake. This system may be what calls us into a spiritual awakening to > more fully integrate all levels of consciousness. > > Several years ago I was invited (all expenses paid) to the Lucidity > Institute <http://lucidity.com/> in Hawaii for a month long study in > dreaming and consciousness. There have been a few invitations I regret not > feeling free enough to accept in my life and this is one, but my mother in > law was in hospice in our home and those love ties reign. Even as a kid I > paid attention to my dreams and it has been for me, a life long > fascination. It has led me to understand that there are states of > consciousness in both waking and sleeping that are the same peak states, > just the movie on the screen has a different tone, like the difference > between Brooks' Blazing Saddles and Polanski's McBeth. > > I think that imagination is the mechanism that puts the movie on screen in > all circumstances. > -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
