A state of feeling as the spark of life's continuity is worthy of a lot of discussion and contemplation http://www.feelingisthesecret.org/ and Neville Goddard based his life's work on the notion that putting ourselves into a state of consciousness with feeling is the mechanism for the manifestation of reality. You will have to forgive, because he is also a Christian mystic, siting biblical quotes with the interpretation that they were clues to this secret.
Not sure it was such a secret. Every mystical tradition says the same thing in some form. And science does seem to be catching up. I am ever in search of the original edition of Einstein's "The World As I See It" that was part of my university's rare book section and I could often be caught sitting in the isle reading it for inspiration. There are many subsequent editions, none as good. He was a brilliant intellect and spirit. On Friday, March 13, 2015 at 12:04:56 PM UTC-4, archytas wrote: > > The philosophy of an imagination looking outwards is fascinating, though > relies on rather behaviourist tricks in some guises. Ludwig Fleck had some > good stuff on what was out now being in, but whose is it questioning. It's > interesting we had Feynman (who also loved his bee, wacky baccy and > womanising), Waddington, Medawar, Horton, Soddy and many others while > social constructivists told us we were 'heartless positivists'. The wrong > ideas on science still pertain, I think conflated with heartless > bureaucracy and bossy versions of religion. > > The 'state of feeling' is worthy of a lot of discussion and contemplation. > > On Friday, March 13, 2015 at 2:43:50 PM UTC, Molly wrote: >> >> I've saved the paper to read after my nap, Neil. Thanks. Scanning it made >> me realize how hooked I am on visual organization with header styles, >> bullet points and all the other nonsense. And how ridiculous I am for it. >> I'm also intrigued that the paper references Feynman who I love, mostly >> because he plays bongos and loves his orange juice: >> https://youtu.be/2Ks8gsK22PA <https://youtu.be/2Ks8gsK22PA> >> >> On Friday, March 13, 2015 at 10:11:15 AM UTC-4, archytas wrote: >>> >>> I have an internal movie screen, though its presence is intermittent, >>> sometimes glorious and once traumatic. The way we process information has >>> multiple logics, including the way memory is not accurate in order to let >>> us put different jigsaw pictures together for multiple futures. The >>> universe itself may be doing something like this, with some having time >>> backwards. >>> >>> In a more simple way, imagination allows us to think things through, and >>> personally I try what seems a reverse of Molly's embodiment - that of the >>> embodiment of the human in machine. The idea is not to create androids, >>> but rather imagination that can take us past current limitations and >>> provide enhancement for human being. Imagination is one way to test in >>> virtual reality and not get one's fingers burned. There are accounts of how >>> experiencing a Van Gogh played a role in constructing the model of a >>> galaxy. I even see similarities between Molly's treatment of non-believers >>> and attempts to make the semantic web compatible in difference. >>> >>> Fascinated by kaleidoscopes as a kid. Fascinated later by how machines >>> could repeat simple equations at vast speed and produce patterns (fractals, >>> chaos) doing something so mundane, yet rather like all 7 billion of us >>> putting different number values into 2x = y at the same time and linking up >>> the pattern. Imagination has a lot to do with pattern spotting. If Molly >>> looks to spiritual awakening, I tend to look for cosmic code. Her methods >>> may be introspective, but what was more introspective than Socrates' claim >>> the knowledge was already in there and could be found through the right >>> questions? I look out, though suspect these distinctions lapse in good >>> sense, compassion and non-jealous integration. >>> >>> Tony turns some plumbing pipes and a mask into a static 'creature' that >>> 'moves' with perspective and focus. I let it ride in my mind - though I >>> could just hate him for his talent (I don't). I more the kind of chap who >>> would borrow any left over pipe to keep the washing machine running. >>> >>> Any looking out is always experienced in the internal-virtual. We think >>> the universe is beige. Space may be fluidic, elastic (more Hooke than >>> Newton), potentially catapult-like so we could evade the limitations of >>> space-time by standing still in moving space. Imaging outwards was a >>> William Blake theme - http://ttj.sagepub.com/content/25/4/495.full.pdf >>> - dramatic unveiling of the inter- action of varied human personalities, >>> with its gradual focusing of atten- tion upon the two major protagonists, >>> and with its brilliantly skillful dis- closure of a symbolism which leads >>> the imagination outwards in widening ... experiments in gender, both >>> socially and artistically, can remind us all of the constant bravery >>> necessary to force the universe of the imagination outwards. >>> >>> Albert Einstein suggested that the elusive, additional element needed >>> for high achievement in science is a "state of feeling" in the researcher, >>> which he called "akin to that of the religious worship per or of one who is >>> in love," arising not from a deliberate decision or program but from a >>> personal necessity. Others are more down to earth. With eloquent simplicity >>> P. W. Bridgman wrote, "The scientific method, as far as it is a method, is >>> nothing more than doing one's damnedest with one's mind, no holds barred." >>> But as good as they are, neither remark nor the occasional anecdotal >>> confession is much help for discovering what we are after. Peter Medawar >>> put it this way, though a bit harshly: "It is of no use looking to >>> scientific papers, for they not merely conceal but actively misrepresent >>> the reasoning that goes into the work they describe... .Only unstudied >>> evidence will do-and that means listening at the keyhole." >>> >>> Free paper here - >>> http://eppl604-autism-and-creativity.wmwikis.net/file/view/20013446.pdf/201762974/20013446.pdf >>> >>> Of course, imagining anyone will read so as to shake themselves from >>> non-participation is imaginary. The self-importance of the petty gossip >>> may be rather like a rabbit hole world. What we can imagine has already >>> been warped by what is so easy to soak up from the 'garbage in' system, >>> including not being able to get over oneself as the centre of the universe. >>> I was taught about the irrational and spasmodic nature of science from >>> books written in and before the 60's. Molly is closer to this than the >>> frauds pretending science is rational. >>> >>> On Friday, March 13, 2015 at 12:02:58 PM UTC, Molly wrote: >>>> >>>> The idea of embodied imagination (Jungian) introduces the notion that >>>> through dreams, imagination presents us with a complete reality that is >>>> different from our waking reality, not constrained by logic or >>>> rationality, >>>> and based more on our individual archetypal system of symbols. My latest >>>> thinking is that we carry this system into our waking conscious life, but >>>> are less aware of it because of the constraints our rationality imposes >>>> when awake. This system may be what calls us into a spiritual awakening to >>>> more fully integrate all levels of consciousness. >>>> >>>> Several years ago I was invited (all expenses paid) to the Lucidity >>>> Institute <http://lucidity.com/> in Hawaii for a month long study in >>>> dreaming and consciousness. There have been a few invitations I regret not >>>> feeling free enough to accept in my life and this is one, but my mother in >>>> law was in hospice in our home and those love ties reign. Even as a kid I >>>> paid attention to my dreams and it has been for me, a life long >>>> fascination. It has led me to understand that there are states of >>>> consciousness in both waking and sleeping that are the same peak states, >>>> just the movie on the screen has a different tone, like the difference >>>> between Brooks' Blazing Saddles and Polanski's McBeth. >>>> >>>> I think that imagination is the mechanism that puts the movie on screen >>>> in all circumstances. >>>> >>> -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
