Thank you for that Hope - so much clearer than Andrew's original version. Suffering another day without Gabby, I went in search of solace to Hope Sunshine's web site. How 'Breezy' it all was. I nearly died, even though the sugar was all virtual.
Thanks Andrew - I suppose we are still pretty clueless what energy is, though know not to pick up a live wire. One of my first reads as a research was a book called 'Patterns of Plausible Inference' - so complicated my head spun with the idea I could never research anything. Hope is obviously so impressed she has set it off in her own deconstructive simulacrum, fond as she is of copying copies and being a mirror image - http://www.sunshinehope.com/ - if only Gabby was here and I could free myself of a ten-year trivia diary preventing the important quest for find her Ark (for the best love stories must have trivial obstructions - like WW2 in some Soviet wit - or we'd have no literature to read). There is much in what Andrew says here, if not taken in mean spirit. The indirect observation of unobservable things is a major topic in the philosophy of science. One can go back to Chauncy Wright -'unobservables postulated by science are “for the purpose of giving a material or visual basis to the phenomena and empirical laws of life in general'. There is a form of synthesis and this is always important in trying cyclic thought. One can quibble on assumptions and conclusions, but anything can be so picked apart by vultures. I just agree really - patterns, some sort of attempt to grasp what many of us think about and have no certain answers to. Machines are certainly telling us much we though uniquely human can be simulated as 'seen' a they operate in flexible logics. We often hope our children will 'have it better than us'. A creator might want this too. Machines are now simulating creation, though we might still be in garbage in garbage out. Patterns we can't see do emerge from machine abilities to keep iterating simple ideas with a myriad of numbers, perhaps Sunshine's subtle point here. How convenient an eclipse is coming on Friday. Observation 8 is referred to as simplexity. I think imagination is in a cycle of outside-in-inside-out and perhaps Molly's 'coming again through it'. What is in things is a matter of a lot of consideration, which goes into another pattern tangle as Andrew suggests - tensor equations being an example.. Dog walk time here. Any attempt like this comes up short, but the triumph is probably creating some frame to think about for others. Almost a life-world Andrew, not left in secret. Thanks indeed. On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 11:03:11 AM UTC, Hope Sunshine wrote: > > Beautiful, Andrew! :-) > > Am Dienstag, 17. März 2015 11:29:26 UTC+1 schrieb andrew vecsey: >> >> Dear members. >> I had an idea that I have been thinking about for some time. I think >> that this topic is a relevant place to share my ideas. It involves >> "imagination" and I hope you will share your thought on it. It starts with >> some assumptions and using observations it leads to some conclusions. It >> proposes that god is an artist and that we are his works of art. >> >> *Assumptions:* >> 1. The golden middle defined as being between 2 extremes is where >> things operate optimally. >> 2. The laws of chaos is in the golden middle between chaos and >> order. >> 3. Our universe operates under the laws of chaos which contains >> patterns within patters, all similar yet never exactly the same. >> 4. We humans find ourselves in the middle of it all. >> >> *Observations:* >> 1. Nature operates under the laws of chaos which shows patterns >> and cycles of patterns. >> 2. Nature is in the middle point as far as size is concerned >> between atoms and galaxies. >> 3. Matter is condensed energy. It can be likened to “things” and >> “thoughts”. >> 4. Imagination is thought that comes from outside. They are ideas >> or intuitions that appear without thinking. >> 5. Imagination precedes thinking and thinking precedes creating >> things. >> 6. Imagining is faster than thinking and thinking is faster than >> creating things. >> 7. Our creations are built on already existing things and are >> superior or an improvement of what already exists. >> 8. All complex things that are not understood can be simplified by >> analogies that are understood. >> >> *Conclusions:* >> 1. By observing our observable reality, we can indirectly observe >> the unobservable things in our reality like atoms and the boundaries of our >> universe. >> 2. By observing how we create things, like machines, we can get a >> feel of how nature was created. >> >> *Summary:* >> >> By using the above assumptions, observations and conclusions, we can in a >> cyclic manner make other assumptions that are on a higher level. >> >> *Higher level assumptions:* >> 1. Our creator evolved from energy and used imagination and then >> thought to manipulate condensed energy we call atoms to create a very basic >> form of life. >> 2. Very basic form of life evolved to the higher forms we see >> today. >> 3. We humans as creations of a creator are superior to our >> creator. >> 4. We humans continue this cycle of creation by creating machines >> that will evolve to be superior to us. >> 5. Anything that can be imagined can be later created to continue >> the cycle of creation. >> ... > > -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
