This is the oldest known bit of human art.  All these eons on and I can't 
do decent pin men.

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Dogma is very off-putting Allan.  Not a bad shape for an inter-galactic air 
ship, the above work of art.


On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 1:09:46 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>
> Beautiful.. 
>
> Omnipresent actually is fascinating  word.. presence to me is much more 
> gentle .. omnipresence seems to have an over powering feeling. I do think a 
> lot of the problems  with religions is the dogma and doctrine that people 
> are adding..  beyond what is there.  To accept  the existence  of God or 
> presence is enough.
> Why is it needed  to try and make God more important? The creation of the 
> entire  universe is attributed to God, how much more important  can you get?
>
>
> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Molly <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 12:12 PM
> Subject: Mind's Eye Re: Transcendental and Transactional Social (religion 
> is no special case of either)
>
> In the sea of love, I melt like salt, Faith, Doubt - they both dissolve.
> A star is opening in my heart, The worlds turn in it.
>
> Rumi
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 2:13:48 AM UTC-4, archytas wrote:
>>
>> http://rstb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/363/1499/2055
>>
>> Once we realize this omnipresence of the imaginary in the everyday, 
>> nothing special is left to explain concerning religion. What needs to be 
>> explained is the much more general question, how it is that we can act so 
>> much of the time towards visible people in terms of their invisible halo. 
>> The tool for this fundamental operation is the capacity for imagination. It 
>> is while searching for neurological evidence for the development of this 
>> capacity and of its social implications that we, in passing, will account 
>> for religious-like phenomena. Trying to understand how imagination can 
>> account for the transcendental social, and incidentally religion, is a 
>> quite different enterprise to accounting for the religious for itself in 
>> terms of modules, or core knowledge, which, in any case, we share with 
>> other primates. Unlike this, imagination does seem to distinguish us from 
>> chimpanzees and perhaps also distinguishes post-Upper Palaeolithic humans 
>> from their forebears.
>>
>> This is from a paper by Maurice Bloch.  I have no problem in accepting 
>> imagination.  I wonder what we should do about religious stupidity in the 
>> transcendental social and that stupidity that cannot distinguish the 
>> transcendental and transactional social domains?  Less corruption in both 
>> would make life better.
>>
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