Ah yes !  The Voyager main hull.

On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 10:03:42 AM UTC-4, archytas wrote:
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> This is the oldest known bit of human art.  All these eons on and I can't 
> do decent pin men.
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> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-MaNvQ2yJJgs/VRK_PFebxaI/AAAAAAAAAHs/YhYxmq92Bws/s1600/joordens_trinil_engravedshelledit.jpg__800x600_q85_crop.jpg>
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> Dogma is very off-putting Allan.  Not a bad shape for an inter-galactic 
> air ship, the above work of art.
>
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> On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 1:09:46 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
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>> Beautiful.. 
>>
>> Omnipresent actually is fascinating  word.. presence to me is much more 
>> gentle .. omnipresence seems to have an over powering feeling. I do think a 
>> lot of the problems  with religions is the dogma and doctrine that people 
>> are adding..  beyond what is there.  To accept  the existence  of God or 
>> presence is enough.
>> Why is it needed  to try and make God more important? The creation of the 
>> entire  universe is attributed to God, how much more important  can you get?
>>
>>
>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Molly <[email protected] <javascript:>>
>> To: [email protected] <javascript:>
>> Sent: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 12:12 PM
>> Subject: Mind's Eye Re: Transcendental and Transactional Social (religion 
>> is no special case of either)
>>
>> In the sea of love, I melt like salt, Faith, Doubt - they both dissolve.
>> A star is opening in my heart, The worlds turn in it.
>>
>> Rumi
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 2:13:48 AM UTC-4, archytas wrote:
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>>> http://rstb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/363/1499/2055
>>>
>>> Once we realize this omnipresence of the imaginary in the everyday, 
>>> nothing special is left to explain concerning religion. What needs to be 
>>> explained is the much more general question, how it is that we can act so 
>>> much of the time towards visible people in terms of their invisible halo. 
>>> The tool for this fundamental operation is the capacity for imagination. It 
>>> is while searching for neurological evidence for the development of this 
>>> capacity and of its social implications that we, in passing, will account 
>>> for religious-like phenomena. Trying to understand how imagination can 
>>> account for the transcendental social, and incidentally religion, is a 
>>> quite different enterprise to accounting for the religious for itself in 
>>> terms of modules, or core knowledge, which, in any case, we share with 
>>> other primates. Unlike this, imagination does seem to distinguish us from 
>>> chimpanzees and perhaps also distinguishes post-Upper Palaeolithic humans 
>>> from their forebears.
>>>
>>> This is from a paper by Maurice Bloch.  I have no problem in accepting 
>>> imagination.  I wonder what we should do about religious stupidity in the 
>>> transcendental social and that stupidity that cannot distinguish the 
>>> transcendental and transactional social domains?  Less corruption in both 
>>> would make life better.
>>>
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