I find this to be wise insight Andrew. A caveat might be the vulnerability of standing in no mans land, a lone wolf on many counts. This watchful, listening temperance may be natural to each in part, when it turns away we are surely damned to our less virtuous and hungrier wolves. On Mar 25, 2015 5:50 PM, "andrew vecsey" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Neutrality kept Switzerland out of fighting wars. Wars are immoral. Judges > in order to do their job right have to remain neutral. Parents should as > well remain neutral. Staying neutral takes more bravery than taking sides. > As an example, some countries and some people find homosexuality immoral. > In those situations, it takes courage to take a neutral stand regarding > homosexuals. Neutrality shows fearless and unconditional respect.Who is to > say what is moral and what is not. And something regarded as morally > correct at one time can be regarded as immorally wrong at another time. > > On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 9:03:31 PM UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote: >> >> Neutrality is afraid of taking a position. A cowards way out.. how now >> to stand up for what is morally correct.. >> >> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: andrew vecsey <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 8:21 PM >> Subject: Mind's Eye Re: War, good god y'all, what is it good for? >> >> I think that all of us agree that the negative consequences of war far >> out weight any of the few positive consequences. >> The positive consequences of war can be realized by other means, >> especially in the modern times that we live in.: >> 1. The advance of knowledge and technology can be realized by >> universities and government and private projects with monetary and merit >> rewards. >> 2. People can mix their cultures, knowledge and genes via tourism and >> exchange projects and the internet. >> 3. Protection against aggressors can be attempted by diplomacy and >> sanctions. >> 4. Over population can be reduced by education, family planing and >> contraception. >> 5. We can realize that the world has become a lot smaller and that the >> brotherhood of man has become a lot clearer. We all have a common enemy in >> that if nature is exploited further we are all threatened. If you love your >> enemies, then you will not have any. >> >> Switzerland has a lot to teach the world in avoiding wars. >> On a political level, the keys to this are neutrality and direct >> democracy. >> On a personal level, the keys are respect, tolerance, appreciation of >> diversity, >> >> Examples are: >> If a part of a canton wants to separate, then accept that fact and let >> them separate like demonstrated by Jura a few years ago. >> Small is beautiful concept.as demonstrated by semi autonomy of the >> cantons and the refusal to join Euro. >> >> On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 12:27:21 PM UTC+1, andrew vecsey wrote: >>> >>> Very interesting question you pose Molly. >>> Of course it is very easy to see the many negative consequences to war, >>> which seems to be a part of human nature. I like to believe that there is >>> always 2 sides to everything - positive and negative. War with weapons and >>> fighting with words have some common ground, like you suggest. Being an >>> aggressor in a war and being a bully also share common ground. >>> >>> The positive consequences of bullying that I can think of are: >>> 1. It can make you stronger when you are bullied. >>> 2. It shows you who your friends are who come to your aid if you are >>> bullied. >>> 3. It allows you to show your friendship by coming to the aid of your >>> friends who are bullied. >>> 4. It allows you to make friends by coming to the aid of strangers who >>> are bullied. >>> 5. You can learn from it so that you do not bully others yourself. >>> >>> The positive consequences of war that I can think of are much more >>> difficult to spot of course: >>> 1. It advances knowledge and technology that can be useful in times of >>> peace. >>> 2. It allows people to mix their cultures, knowledge and genes. >>> 3. It can protect your countrymen and family against aggressors. >>> 4. Like natural disasters like floods. earthquakes, fires and >>> epidemics,it can be used to counteract over population. >>> 5. We can learn from it. If you love your enemies, like Jesus is claimed >>> to have said, then you will not have any. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, March 24, 2015 at 12:03:34 AM UTC+1, Molly wrote: >>>> >>>> Howard Zinn, http://howardzinn.org/ historian, author, professor, >>>> playwright, and activist, whose life’s work focused on a wide range of >>>> issues including race, class, war, and history, and touched the lives of >>>> countless people, said "war itself is the enemy of the human race" >>>> http://bit.ly/1FwyDUP <http://bit.ly/1FwyDUP> >>>> >>>> We go to war in a variety of ways, big to small. daily (some of us), in >>>> interpersonal ways, and over decades, as the human race. 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