Last time I had a killer headache and went to a conference I met my husband, so Cheers! Neil. And thanks for the link. Would very much like to see practical application come out of a moral-spiritual view. Freedom cost a buck two eighty (Team America) I hear, the price of policing.
On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 10:59:18 PM UTC-4, archytas wrote: > > Low LOL Moll - some of the modules at this conference in Manchester over > the next few days at least show some of us are taking a moral-spiritual > view on economics. I've had to pull out from some workshop involvement > because this flu is making my head pound. > > http://boombustboombust.com/programme/ > > On the Chinese aspect we should be concerned that their central bank PBoC > is probably more corrupt than the FED and their system and shadow system > are full of bad loans, Ponzi properties, rehypothicated (ie stolen) > collateral and money-laundering. On gold, we should remember the last big > gold standard was British and based on wars we fought in South Africa after > the big gold finds near Witwatersrand. Everyone party to it cheated, not > least the BoE. > > Various attitudes in economic determinism make me sick to the boots, from > Marx on 'niggers and slavery' (he thought the US was the 'great white > hope') to people who mouth "austerity" when it kills other people and makes > even Greek kids go hungry. These are spiritual, human rights issues and > the kind of things I'd like Gabby turning her critical eye to. I think > this is what Allan's sig line is about too. And before dismissing American > power from any politically correct high ground, we also need to think > through how to cope without it as part of a positive Plan B. Guns to > plough shares ain't it when Genghis is forming a plan and economics, bent > as it is, has been part of the West staying ahead. The fascist right have > long known this and that various academics doing neo-classical economics > and monetarism are flunkies .Sooner or later you have to 'police' freedom. > > > , March 30, 2015 at 2:02:24 AM UTC+1, Molly wrote: >> >> Oh I thought that's what the Clinton's were doing (cough, cough, gaag) >> COn Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 8:54:47 PM UTC-4, archytas wrote: >>> >>> Actually we might do an analysis of what the Lord has provided and put >>> some faith into nurturing and distributing it. >>> >>> On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 12:44:59 AM UTC+1, Molly wrote: >>>> >>>> Thanks, Francis. We have been watching with anticipation of positive >>>> change, although not counting on it. I know not to believe the talking >>>> heads, but was interested to see them even acknowledging the occurrence. >>>> Not sure I trust the Zero Hedge or mainstream media perspectives either. >>>> Always wondering what is really occurring. Neil is right in that in the >>>> end, as implausible as it sounds, "the Lord provides" may be the most >>>> reasonable perspective, since the rest is dog eat dog lunacy. >>>> >>>> On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 6:51:49 PM UTC-4, frantheman wrote: >>>>> >>>>> For years I have regarded that strange subject called "economics" as >>>>> being somewhere on a par with that other strange subject known as >>>>> "theology," and tend to see economists as belonging to the same general >>>>> group as bishops, witch-doctors, mullahs and snake-oil salesmen. In their >>>>> areas of so-called expertise, they regularly get things wrong - and then >>>>> go >>>>> on to earn vast amounts as talking heads, retrospectively explaining what >>>>> they failed to see coming. Carnival fortune-tellers probably have a >>>>> better >>>>> record of accuracy. >>>>> >>>>> The ghastly thing is that these high priests of mumbo-jumbo have such >>>>> power and influence. >>>>> >>>>> I have some (a very small amount) of sympathy for the Chinese >>>>> leadership elite - they're riding a very powerful, unpredictable, and >>>>> very >>>>> dangerous tiger; trying to modernise and stabilize a population four >>>>> times >>>>> the size of the USA, most of whom are still leading a pre-modern peasant >>>>> existence, the rest of whom are trying to gallop into a materialistic >>>>> hyper-capitalism as fast as they can. The whole country seems to be >>>>> living >>>>> in a state of perpetual high tension. Whether they will succeed without >>>>> the >>>>> whole thing exploding around their ears remains an open question. Let's >>>>> hope they do, for the alternative - China unravelling - would lead to the >>>>> kind of geo-political instability which would make the Middle East look >>>>> like a kindergarten squabble. >>>>> >>>>> I see the latest moves as part of a long, ongoing process leading to >>>>> full convertability of the yuan/renminbi. Within the current (lunatic) >>>>> models which economists and economic commentators use, this can only be >>>>> seen globally as something positive. While it may have been very >>>>> convenient >>>>> for the US to have the dollar as *the *global reserve currency, this >>>>> has not necessarily been good for the rest of the world. China owns a >>>>> massive amount of US debt (owing the the trade imbalance between both >>>>> countries) and are thus terribly vulnerable to changes in US fiscal >>>>> policy. >>>>> For the world generally, a basket of around half a dozen reserve >>>>> currencies >>>>> (dollar, euro, yuan, Swiss franc, pound sterling, yen) is a much more >>>>> stable proposition. It would force the major powers to cooperate at a >>>>> deeper level than they currently do. It would also reduce US hegemony >>>>> globally, which might just help provide a reality check for the US >>>>> political elites (particularly those on the right) - though I'm not >>>>> holding >>>>> my breath about that. >>>>> >>>>> Am Sonntag, 29. März 2015 15:28:24 UTC+2 schrieb Molly: >>>>>> >>>>>> The new Chinese bank established with a gold standard is gaining >>>>>> momentum on the international stage. How will this effect the world >>>>>> economy? These quotes from Bloomberg: >>>>>> >>>>>> *China’s clout has been expanding for decades, as its rapid growth >>>>>> allowed it to snap up a rising share of the world’s resources, its >>>>>> exports >>>>>> penetrated global markets, and its bulging financial assets gave it >>>>>> power >>>>>> to make big individual loans and purchases. Now, the creation of >>>>>> international lending institutions is leveraging that economic influence >>>>>> closer to the political and diplomatic arenas, as U.S. allies defy >>>>>> America >>>>>> to back China’s initiative.* >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *“This is the beginning of a bigger role for China in global >>>>>> affairs,” said Jim O’Neill, U.K.-based former chief economist at Goldman >>>>>> Sachs Group Inc., who coined the term BRICs in 2001 to highlight the >>>>>> rising >>>>>> economic power of Brazil, Russia, India and China…* >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *Chinese President Xi Jinping’s vision of achieving the same >>>>>> great-power status enjoyed by the U.S. received a major boost this month >>>>>> when the U.K., Germany, France and Italy signed on to the Asian >>>>>> Infrastructure Investment Bank. The AIIB will have authorized capital of >>>>>> $100 billion and starting funds of about $50 billion.* >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *Canada is considering joining, which would leave the U.S. and Japan >>>>>> as the only Group of Seven holdouts as they question the institution’s >>>>>> governance and environmental standards.* >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *China, flush with the world’s biggest foreign-exchange reserves and >>>>>> anxious to convert them into “soft power”, is building an alternative >>>>>> architecture. It has proposed not just the AIIB, but a New Development >>>>>> Bank >>>>>> with its “BRICS” partners—Brazil, Russia, India and South Africa—and a >>>>>> Silk >>>>>> Road development fund to boost “connectivity” with its Central Asian >>>>>> neighbours…* >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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