Debt creation
>From view well hidden
Eternal well

Springing
>From the golden calf
Sing and dance

Great joy
Abounds all around
Extreme poverty 

تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others

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From: archytas <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, 05 Apr 2015 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: The new Chinese gold standard

The Chinese have already killed about one in nine Tibetans.  Russia's 
capacity for secret police activity spans either side of the USSR.  Islam 
is a religion of peace - ho, ho ho - various practitioners and Jews having 
shipped about 2 million white slaves in a century or two around the Black 
Sea.  There are no real nice people in history as they never survive to 
write it.

Some think the use of the USD is worth about $30 billion annually to the 
US.  This sounds a lot, but is about 0.2% of GDP.  I think money is more 
deeply criminal than is generally admitted.  Given how bent the Chinese and 
Russians are I have difficulties thinking they can forge a new reserve. 
 The problem is the US is no longer a democracy and neither is Europe.  The 
actual reserve currencies are the USD, Euro and (marginally) the pound 
sterling.  To understand what is going on we need to look at Japan and 
wider issues in Ponzi economics.

The answer is about taking money and assets from the rich and freeing 
ourselves from paying for work already done.  Don may be right on top dog 
being inevitable, but money, whether Chinese, US or Russian is under the 
control of an allocation class and everywhere they end up with it clinging 
to their fingers.

The currency wars are fairly well described at Zerohedge and Keiser Report. 
 The real problem is that we have no real USD or pound sterling - money is 
created as debt by private banks.

On Sunday, April 5, 2015 at 5:23:13 AM UTC+1, Don Johnson wrote:
>
> I thought I'd find reams of information on this new development at the 
> wsj.com. Barely a blip on the radar. I don't think it matters much. The 
> US is already marginalized politically and militarily and only time will 
> tell what effect this will have on the rest of the world. The short game is 
> ME chaos. I fear for my Zionist brothers and sisters. There will be another 
> power presiding over world hegemony in the coming years. It will be 
> interesting to see how well Russia, China and Iran treat those under their 
> thumb. I'm sure they will treat 3rd world countries with the respect they 
> deserve and never abuse them like the English, French and Americans have. 
> They're just better human beings then us I'm sure. <-----sarcasm
>
> Those of you who think there won't be a big cheese are kidding yourselves. 
> There's always a big cheese. Now we will see just how stinky the next 
> flavor will be. 
>
> dj
>
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Chris Jenkins <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> "For years I have regarded that strange subject called "economics" as 
>> being somewhere on a par with that other strange subject known as 
>> "theology," and tend to see economists as belonging to the same general 
>> group as bishops, witch-doctors, mullahs and snake-oil salesmen"
>>
>> I was exceedingly disappointed when I discovered this was likely the 
>> case. 
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 6:51 PM, frantheman <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> For years I have regarded that strange subject called "economics" as 
>>> being somewhere on a par with that other strange subject known as 
>>> "theology," and tend to see economists as belonging to the same general 
>>> group as bishops, witch-doctors, mullahs and snake-oil salesmen. In their 
>>> areas of so-called expertise, they regularly get things wrong - and then go 
>>> on to earn vast amounts as talking heads, retrospectively explaining what 
>>> they failed to see coming. Carnival fortune-tellers probably have a better 
>>> record of accuracy.
>>>
>>> The ghastly thing is that these high priests of mumbo-jumbo have such 
>>> power and influence.
>>>
>>> I have some (a very small amount) of sympathy for the Chinese leadership 
>>> elite - they're riding a very powerful, unpredictable, and very dangerous 
>>> tiger; trying to modernise and stabilize a population four times the size 
>>> of the USA, most of whom are still leading a pre-modern peasant existence, 
>>> the rest of whom are trying to gallop into a materialistic hyper-capitalism 
>>> as fast as they can. The whole country seems to be living in a state of 
>>> perpetual high tension. Whether they will succeed without the whole thing 
>>> exploding around their ears remains an open question. Let's hope they do, 
>>> for the alternative - China unravelling - would lead to the kind of 
>>> geo-political instability which would make the Middle East look like a 
>>> kindergarten squabble.
>>>
>>> I see the latest moves as part of a long, ongoing process leading to 
>>> full convertability of the yuan/renminbi. Within the current (lunatic) 
>>> models which economists and economic commentators use, this can only be 
>>> seen globally as something positive. While it may have been very convenient 
>>> for the US to have the dollar as *the *global reserve currency, this 
>>> has not necessarily been good for the rest of the world. China owns a 
>>> massive amount of US debt (owing the the trade imbalance between both 
>>> countries) and are thus terribly vulnerable to changes in US fiscal policy. 
>>> For the world generally, a basket of around half a dozen reserve currencies 
>>> (dollar, euro, yuan, Swiss franc, pound sterling, yen) is a much more 
>>> stable proposition. It would force the major powers to cooperate at a 
>>> deeper level than they currently do. It would also reduce US hegemony 
>>> globally, which might just help provide a reality check for the US 
>>> political elites (particularly those on the right) - though I'm not holding 
>>> my breath about that.
>>>
>>> Am Sonntag, 29. März 2015 15:28:24 UTC+2 schrieb Molly:
>>>>
>>>> The new Chinese bank established with a gold standard is gaining 
>>>> momentum on the international stage. How will this effect the world 
>>>> economy? These quotes from Bloomberg:
>>>>
>>>> *China’s clout has been expanding for decades, as its rapid growth 
>>>> allowed it to snap up a rising share of the world’s resources, its exports 
>>>> penetrated global markets, and its bulging financial assets gave it power 
>>>> to make big individual loans and purchases. Now, the creation of 
>>>> international lending institutions is leveraging that economic influence 
>>>> closer to the political and diplomatic arenas, as U.S. allies defy America 
>>>> to back China’s initiative.*
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> *“This is the beginning of a bigger role for China in global affairs,” 
>>>> said Jim O’Neill, U.K.-based former chief economist at Goldman Sachs Group 
>>>> Inc., who coined the term BRICs in 2001 to highlight the rising economic 
>>>> power of Brazil, Russia, India and China…*
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> *Chinese President Xi Jinping’s vision of achieving the same 
>>>> great-power status enjoyed by the U.S. received a major boost this month 
>>>> when the U.K., Germany, France and Italy signed on to the Asian 
>>>> Infrastructure Investment Bank. The AIIB will have authorized capital of 
>>>> $100 billion and starting funds of about $50 billion.*
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> *Canada is considering joining, which would leave the U.S. and Japan as 
>>>> the only Group of Seven holdouts as they question the institution’s 
>>>> governance and environmental standards.*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> *China, flush with the world’s biggest foreign-exchange reserves and 
>>>> anxious to convert them into “soft power”, is building an alternative 
>>>> architecture. It has proposed not just the AIIB, but a New Development 
>>>> Bank 
>>>> with its “BRICS” partners—Brazil, Russia, India and South Africa—and a 
>>>> Silk 
>>>> Road development fund to boost “connectivity” with its Central Asian 
>>>> neighbours…*
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
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