Matriarchs haven't had much practice.  I wonder if all the world leaders 
right now were replaced by women how much further we would be as a united 
world.  

Not to keen on Hillary Goddam Clinton though.  Obama's "clean hard drive" 
refers to golf while Her's refers to hidden agendas.

I don't wonder anymore about Allan.  

 I was only offering a thought as to a very large denominations curious 
veneration of a quasi deity and why that never trickled down to the 
exclusive Vatican men's club.  

On Wednesday, April 8, 2015 at 4:08:44 PM UTC-4, archytas wrote:
>
> I'm wondering whether we end up screwed by terms as big as universe before 
> we start.  I think alter-universes may be small.  Maybe Allan's reply to 
> you here is one Tony?  I don't understand where he got to there in response 
> to what you said - a world of understanding is missing somehow.  I can even 
> feel something threatening in what Allan says, almost Gabby-like. "Now do 
> not ever attack my Father and his beliefs ever again.. get some brains  and 
> understanding in your head"  My head can only ask 'where the fuck did that 
> come from'? - somewhat mediated by some idea I have of him as a nice guy 
> not that different from me.
>
> I don't start thinking with much that is clear to start with and some of 
> my journeys end up as forgettable rough passages.  Alternate universes are 
> like Hilbert's 'Hotel Infinity' - never full because a further room can 
> always be added.
>
> I was wondering more on what we can honestly promise about them when we 
> speak of imaginative change as a real possibility for another person.  I 
> suppose, along with the MA student, we could all explore the feminine 
> divine in us.  I'd guess even Moll would wonder where we might get a drink 
> of it, even if she has plenty of rhetoric well beyond the thesis.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, April 8, 2015 at 5:34:33 PM UTC+1, facilitator wrote:
>>
>> I have trouble with the term "Alternate Universe" . The universe, by 
>> nature, would include all alternatives.
>>
>> The Catholics have a cult of Mary which states in repetitive prayer: 
>> "Holy Mary mother of God",  seeing her as a co-redeemer and creator of the 
>> divine.  
>>
>>  
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 8, 2015 at 9:34:28 AM UTC-4, archytas wrote:
>>>
>>> Sex is how we currently reproduce, gender is probably a wider concept 
>>> and hardly stops at male and female.  I had wondered if you guys think much 
>>> in terms of social construction.  I tend to like working with people who 
>>> can tell the shit from the sawdust and why the unmentioned in the manual 
>>> crow-bar is so essential.  'I'm going to help from the feminine divine 
>>> Neil' doesn't sound very promising.  The mug, for instance, could come from 
>>> various 'inspirations'.  And one can say much the same of the thesis.  I 
>>> used to see a hundred of so a year, a few quite brilliant (this one isn't), 
>>> some so obviously good in the practice I'd have preferred no write-up and 
>>> down to the plagiarised majority.  We might take Allan's stance and ask for 
>>> a 'jar of feminine divine', but this isn't how I would treat something like 
>>> this educationally.  
>>>
>>> I think an 'alter-universe' needs to be created for a thesis like this 
>>> to exist as a process.  We might think more generally about the difference 
>>> between the alter-universe of a Muslim woman in an area with a promotion of 
>>> virtue and prevention of vice squad and a grad student of Judith Butler.  
>>>
>>> What interests me is what promises we can genuinely make about radical 
>>> change.  You see, amongst some academics this thesis would be an outright 
>>> fail.  I could both support and crush it, if I was hired as an advocate.
>>>
>>> I would see stuff like this as relevant to building with the imagination 
>>> - though also find it dull and conservative.    
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, April 8, 2015 at 12:12:43 PM UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I will be the first to admit having  a great deal of problems with 
>>>> gender and spirituality .  When  I feel  someone trying to sell me a bill 
>>>> of good I lose interest quickly. 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'll get back on why I think any aspects of divine relate to 
>>>> alter-universes Molly.  Allan could be seen to miss the point on this 
>>>> thesis, though my own response had a lot of his experience in it.  Here's 
>>>> a 
>>>> cruder example of the 'divine feminine'.
>>>>
>>>>

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