I suppose a lot depends on how far it has all gone Allan. I think we've been had to such a degree that rational discussion is not possible for most people. I don't even believe we know the reasons for such as our 'civil wars' and WW1 & WW2. This view on Lincoln is a classic of the 'we get history upside down' brigade I tend to agree with - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-04-13/paul-craig-roberts-america-will-be-hard-pressed-survive-lies-it-lives
On Monday, April 13, 2015 at 6:48:30 PM UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote: > > Modern beliefs > Words spinning free > Concepts > > Ideas twisted > Bent to fit desires > Spiritually > > Propaganda > Flowing unabated daily > Spin doctors rule > > Confused beliefs > Dictating life conditions > With God > > تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين > Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others > > -----Original Message----- > From: archytas <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 4:49 PM > Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Propaganda > > I once thought we could wander about under a shield of innocence Allan - > and perhaps one can personally. The problem seems to be that when one > looks around, everyone else is infected. Some of us have started calling > the current state of affairs a "cuntocracy" - > https://pinkindustry.wordpress.com/sociology/ > > I tend to think very few of us are actually economically active directly > and are already reclusive in bullshit jobs and retirement - even if we > still look after our kids and put what seems a full week in. I think > education may have been so bad that most people might struggle to fill a > couple of sides of A4 on memories of it. > > On Monday, April 13, 2015 at 3:08:21 PM UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote: >> >> When it comes to praganda nothing surprises me. It seem we live in world >> totally manipulated by propaganda that is in total control or at least >> tries to control our reality. . >> >> My questions lie along the line of how does one escape such intense >> propaganda. . Become isolated recluses? >> >> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: archytas <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 3:34 PM >> Subject: Mind's Eye Propaganda >> >> We like to think we can do rational discussion, yet there is now so much >> propaganda in our society it is hard to believe many of us are remotely >> prepared to argue with facts. >> >> http://www.sprword.com/videos/psywar/ >> >> The situation is much worse than even this over-long video manages to put >> over. Most entertainment drips with ideology and is made by remarkably few >> people. I meet Americans who think propaganda critique like this is aimed >> at them. I would rather say that, if there are 174 countries, there are >> 174 different versions of the propaganda. Leadership tells the same lies >> everywhere, adjusting only the heroes and victims. >> >> One area that has been interesting me is the extent of propaganda in the >> dire news and entertainment made available to us. Why are series from >> Bonanza to NCIS so bad? How do we end up with so many pro-police series >> given the weight of real incompetence and miscarriages of justice? How can >> lawyers ever be presented other than as vile, fee-sucking parasites in a >> system in which justice is a rare fluke? >> >> The name 'Bellissario' is in the credits of Magnum PI and NCIS. This and >> a very few others are involved in making much of our entertainment, totally >> lacking in critical edge. The same wooden actors seem to dominate >> everything too. >> >> In the UK, half our journalists come from public schools (ie very high >> cost private schools) when only 7% of kids go to these bastions of >> privilege. In the UK, it has taken a quarter of a century to bring the >> truth about deaths at a soccer match to light (Hillsborough) - what chance >> then of the truth about wars and economics in such a secrecy-prone society? >> >> -- >> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> ""Minds Eye"" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
