Hello Archtas, hi Allan why don't you join this discussion, it would be a pleasure to know your take on this topic.
On Sat 2 Feb, 2019, 2:50 PM Rajendra Pal Singh <[email protected] wrote: > We are the living selves, the ahamkaras, and the Real Self is the basis of > life itself, on realizing it there is no differentiation of I and you, mine > and thine. > But if we cherish the consciousness of "I AM " the lower self, it is > applaudable because we are fragments of the Self, made in his image. > Virtue matters a lot because just as laws of physics, biology, etc rule > the world, laws of spirituality also rule us. What these laws might be I do > not know but believe that kindness, generosity, etc. are some of them. > > On Sat 2 Feb, 2019, 2:33 PM Vam <[email protected] wrote: > >> It is alright. However, I must point out there no basis for believing >> that truth has to be constrained within human logic. There is evidence >> galore of illogical matters in existence. >> >> There are great debates recounted in the Upanishads, typically between >> Monists and those holding what we now know as the Buddhist position. The >> answer to your proposition is : >> >> "Not so. There is the Self and there are selves that we perceive. The >> selves we perceive of ourself are reactive and conditioned forms of the >> same Self, which you regard as being now conscious and then unconscious. >> Altogether, there is a Self you sometimes perceive and at other times do >> not perceive. You are the gross, conditioned, reactive shadow of the >> OneSelf." >> >> There is further evidence that the Self is conscious even in deep sleep. >> If it were not, we wouldn't wake up and share with another person, "Oh, I >> slept so soundly, blissfully, today." That sense of having been blissfully >> asleep is not just on account of physical rest but is of the form of the >> memory of one's experience in the deep sleep state. >> >> >> -- >> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> ""Minds Eye"" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
