On 3/22/2012 2:01 PM, Jon wrote:
>> Would it be possible to generate a new automated build for mingw?  If
>> I remember correctly the mingw build-bots were down?
>
> Perhaps it's time to rethink the current automated build strategy with an eye 
> on dramatic simplification. Something that's less onerous, less complex, and 
> more in line with the current project resourcing realities.
>
First, I apologize for not being around enough to fix the buildbot 
issues; I never managed to get the bus factor high enough before 
effectively disappearing for personal reasons.

The only real reason to use buildbot for releases of any sort that I 
know of was simply to use the slaves.  It is quite possible to manually 
roll a build identical to the buildbot using the makefile - after all, 
buildbot just grabs the copy from (IIRC) svn head anyway.

Of course, there is no reason to continue using the makefiles if there 
are better alternatives; it was chosen to be able to 1) let buildbot 
specify a target, and 2) locally build up to a target, and possibly 
retry.  To be honest, it's a bit ugly - there just didn't seem to be 
less-bad alternatives at the time.

The builds (binaries) themselves were uploaded more as an afterthought - 
we already build them, and it might be useful for developer testing. 
The (obsolete) plan was to one day let buildbot handle releases (svn 
tag) as well; there are bits in the buildbot setup left to try to handle 
this, though I suspect it's broken.

In general: I strongly agree that the current situation isn't very good, 
and wish you luck on whatever you can to fix it - I will try to answer 
questions, though I suspect my response time might not be awesome.  Keep 
buildbot or not, just do better than I did ;)

-- 
Mook


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