On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 10:37:09AM -0400, Nick Holland wrote:
> On 06/21/2012 01:27 PM, Peter J. Philipp wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >Since deraadt mentioned the names of people who left to bitrig and I'm
> >wondering what will happen to the macppc port?  Is it going to go the
> >route of the mac68k port too?  I saw some commits earlier on it so that
> >got my hopes up...
> >
> >I have a G4 Cube running OpenBSD/macppc and it has a lifetime of another
> >2 years or so despite being 11 years old.  Its benefit is it's low watt
> >draw (35 watts) and its silence no fans.  I replaced its hd with an ssd
> >so it doesn't hum.  I sleep beside it iow.
> >
> >-peter
> 
> I don't think OpenBSD/macppc is going away any time soon.
> I've never heard any mention of it...and if the talk about mac68k
> going away is any indication, the time between first talk and
> actually happening is something on the order of ten years :) (and
> again..I've seen no talk!).
> 
> Mac68k basically went away because there was no one who cared to
> keep it up, and it really was a pain in the butt.  See Miod's post
> to mac68k@ for the details, but let me add "one week for 'make
> build'", plus another week for X, and that doesn't work anyway, and
> heck, it spends most of its time broke.  And that assumes the build
> worked.  Think about the frustration of running a build for four
> days...and getting an error.  You apply a fix, and ... four days
> later, you find something else. Yes, this happened to me recently.
> Think what this means to someone trying to bring a new feature to
> mac68k.

I doubt you could build mac68k in a week.

My HP 345 takes roughly two weeks to build src, if there are no
problems. IIRC 8-10h to build a kernel.

The interesting question really would be: Are there any plans to get rid
of m68k entirely. Because then I would have to switch to RusticBSD...

Another thing I'm wondering about is whether coldfire is compatible
enough to run the m68k userland.

> 
> Plus...we have very little evidence anyone was actually USING mac68k.
> 
> NONE of this applies to macppc.  The ONLY thing in common between
> mac68k and macppc in the OpenBSD project is the first three letters,
> and no one is confusing the two platforms.
> 
> Nick.

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