On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 10:37:09AM -0400, Nick Holland wrote: > On 06/21/2012 01:27 PM, Peter J. Philipp wrote: > >Hi, > > > >Since deraadt mentioned the names of people who left to bitrig and I'm > >wondering what will happen to the macppc port? Is it going to go the > >route of the mac68k port too? I saw some commits earlier on it so that > >got my hopes up... > > > >I have a G4 Cube running OpenBSD/macppc and it has a lifetime of another > >2 years or so despite being 11 years old. Its benefit is it's low watt > >draw (35 watts) and its silence no fans. I replaced its hd with an ssd > >so it doesn't hum. I sleep beside it iow. > > > >-peter > > I don't think OpenBSD/macppc is going away any time soon. > I've never heard any mention of it...and if the talk about mac68k > going away is any indication, the time between first talk and > actually happening is something on the order of ten years :) (and > again..I've seen no talk!). > > Mac68k basically went away because there was no one who cared to > keep it up, and it really was a pain in the butt. See Miod's post > to mac68k@ for the details, but let me add "one week for 'make > build'", plus another week for X, and that doesn't work anyway, and > heck, it spends most of its time broke. And that assumes the build > worked. Think about the frustration of running a build for four > days...and getting an error. You apply a fix, and ... four days > later, you find something else. Yes, this happened to me recently. > Think what this means to someone trying to bring a new feature to > mac68k.
I doubt you could build mac68k in a week. My HP 345 takes roughly two weeks to build src, if there are no problems. IIRC 8-10h to build a kernel. The interesting question really would be: Are there any plans to get rid of m68k entirely. Because then I would have to switch to RusticBSD... Another thing I'm wondering about is whether coldfire is compatible enough to run the m68k userland. > > Plus...we have very little evidence anyone was actually USING mac68k. > > NONE of this applies to macppc. The ONLY thing in common between > mac68k and macppc in the OpenBSD project is the first three letters, > and no one is confusing the two platforms. > > Nick.

