Hi Ricardo
I am curious which scientific instrumentation application that was? I
have heard about the odd one that will run on Mac but it's an industry
99% dominated by Windoze.
I tried GNUstep and wrote it off because it was so black it looked like
crap. My approach has changed a lot since then though. I will give it
another try. Even if I can't get it to look great, I think I will be
doing a good thing by trying to sell customers on the idea of something
that works right but looks like crap, rather the conventionally approach
which is the reverse.
On 13-05-25 07:22 AM, Riccardo Mottola wrote:
Hi,
I am happy to see fellow-thinkers. GUIs are moving to a disaster.
Windows 2000 was usable, heck even Windows 7, once its features are
tuned, is a good and usable OS! But have you seen Windows 8? It is pure
crap for desktop use.
GNOME became a monstrum.. and Mac was nice... years ago. The latest
version are full of stupid things, incoherencies.
When I used scientific stuff a couple of years ago, software was often
written with a toolkit on Unix that oculd run on Solaris and Linux osing
Motif and which gave windows-like calls and appearance, so that it
oculd exist on windows too. It was commercial though, it wasn't wxWidgets
Let me give my *personal* view. The only thing I like is GNUstep. It
runs on BSDs, Linux and Solaris. It is nice to code GUIs in and being
objective-c you know that porting to Mac is easy and even iOS could be
not so bad. It works on windows, but you get compromises about the
looks, but it usually works, I ported successfully lots of programs there.
Patrick Mc(avery wrote:
Hi Everyone
It looks like OpenBSD is all about software correctness and I am sure
it will be great to work with, in a sort of "back end" way but is
there a desktop manager to work with it that can match the reliability
of OpenBSD?
I tried to load Fluxbox and was disappointed with it. It had several
menubuttons for application that were not yet installed.
That is perhaps more a question about the package itself which needs to
be tuned. If you like it, if you like the toolkit to program with, if it
is stable on the operating system of your choice. Tuning the menu
entries is really the last step.
GNUstep packages on OpenBSD are actively maintained and Sebastian is
active and responds to suggesions.
Any help would be very much appreciated, I feel trapped and it sounds
weird to say this but I am really a bit depressed about the idea of
heading back to Windows.
I hope not. Depends on your need. Writing input and output panels with
textboxes and buttons is really fun and nice in GNUstep. I am writing a
proprietary app with it tha tI cannot share which does that: monitoring,
launching tasks.. nice and usable GUI.
Since you mention data, I am working on a simple charing and plotting
toolkit for GNUstep to display, currently, mostly static data (=it is
not yet optimized for fast-paced changes, but in future releases I know
where I can squeeze speed out, but getting a 0.1 release is already
proving a feat).
Look if you like in these two screenshots (it is just a demo app). You
can also see that it works on Mac and how it compares.
http://multixden.blogspot.it/2011/09/oresme-plotting-for-gnustep.html
http://multixden.blogspot.it/2011/09/oresmekit-plotting-two-functions.html
Right now I am concentrating on Charts instead of plots, because I need
that for an application, I can share screenshot s if you are interested.
A general look of the environment (here on FreeBSD, but I assure that on
OpenBSD it works fine):
http://multixden.blogspot.it/2013/03/gnustep-on-freebsd.html
Riccardo
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