apt-get though seemingly simple, brings in shit load of libraries with names resembling alien species. Try doing a dpkg -l | wc -l and you'll get the idea. Even a default Debian system can have hundreds of libraries of dubious origins. Would I trust my important data to it? Definitely not.
Don't make the mistake of confusing "simplicity" with "minimal work", which I think is what you have been implying all along. OpenBSD is the most simple OS I've ever had the pleasure of working with - as I know I am always in control, as there are very few unknowns. If you are serious about having a internet facing server with important data, then you should try OpenBSD. If it doesn't work, you always have a choice to move back to your favorite OS. Right tool for the job. -ag -- sent via 100% recycled electrons from my mobile command center. On Apr 4, 2014, at 3:06 PM, Martin Braun <yellowgoldm...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> I used OpenBSD back in the 3.x days, > >> The last 3.x release was 8 years ago. >> Are you fucking serious? > > Yup. > >>> but eventually began using Debian >>> because it was much easier to maintain > >> Can you please give an example of a maintenance task >> that is easier then the comparable/analogous task in OpenBSD? >> Because I remember Debian kinda sucked when I used it in 1998. > > apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade between versions are pretty awesome. > >> Seriously though, the reason for me (and many people apparently) >> to use OpenBSD is the _extreme_simplicity_ of just about anything. > > OpenBSD is great to use, but BSD's in general are not simplistic when it > comes to package management, hence the reason why FreeBSD is developing the > new pkg tool.. whiiiich is pretty much a clone of what apt does on Debian. > > For me I remember when time was spend updating from one OpenBSD version to > the next. So many hours. Debian was a fantastic relief back then and still > is. However, this is without comparing security issues, but only talking > about "simplicity". > > > 2014-04-04 9:21 GMT+02:00 Jan Stary <h...@stare.cz>: > >>> I used OpenBSD back in the 3.x days, >> >> The last 3.x release was 8 years ago. >> Are you fucking serious? >> >>> but eventually began using Debian >>> because it was much easier to maintain >> >> Can you please give an example of a maintenance task >> that is easier then the comparable/analogous task in OpenBSD? >> Because I remember Debian kinda sucked when I used it in 1998. >> >> Seriously though, the reason for me (and many people apparently) >> to use OpenBSD is the _extreme_simplicity_ of just about anything.