>Sure running Oracle Java or MATLAB on
>OpenBSD would be nice but that is not OpenBSD issue but rather Oracle
>and MathWorks business decisions.

There is OpenJDK is open source:
http://openjdk.java.net/projects/bsd-port/

To get companies interested to develop binaries for OpenBSD, that will
require OpenBSD to be more complete platform for applications.

In practice this means defined long term ABI stability. And if we are
talking about desktop applications, this means also defined desktop
environment and toolkit. FVVM + Xaw won't quite cut it.

2014-09-10 3:09 GMT+03:00 Predrag Punosevac <[email protected]>:

> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 8:49 PM, tekk <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I know that at least in 2004 it was considered to be unreasonable
> > to try to get i386 linux applications working on amd64 openbsd through
> > emul.linux, but how much work would be involved to get amd64 linux
> > apps working? Presumably it wouldn't  quite be as easy as just using
> > 64 bit packages instead of 32 bit, but are there too  many abi
> > differences?
>
> Unlike many OSs OpenBSD amd64 is true 64 bit operating system so even
> running native i386 binaries on amd64 (in some kind sandbox of course)
> is not possible. IIRC there was extensive discussion many years ago
> about cross compiling and OpenBSD developers got that right by insisting
> on native builds and real hardware testing. If anybody things otherwise
> please try to run any non Tier I NetBSD port. I honestly wonder if
> emul.linux serves any purpose today. OpenBSD ports three contains
> practically any valuable peace of open-source software worth porting.
> Apart of now dead Opera web browser I personally have never been tempted
> to run Linux binaries on OpenBSD. Sure running Oracle Java or MATLAB on
> OpenBSD would be nice but that is not OpenBSD issue but rather Oracle
> and MathWorks business decisions. Same goes with infamous Adobe Flash or
> my recent favorite MegaRAID Storage Management.
>
> If I was allowed to vote I would remove emul.linux code from the build
> all together.
>
> Predrag

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