Security and correctness should never be an after-thought. Have you done any real software development? And have you ever tried to find your way through cruddy code? 999 times out of 1000 it is less painful and much more effective to rewrite from scratch. So what's the point of having that previous iteration?
On 5 Apr 2017 at 13:10, Luke Small wrote: > I imagine there are some projects that need some love that are on the back > burner at the moment that could use some hacking; even if it is totally > redone later by someone that wants to refactor it for privsep and such. > On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 4:21 PM Theo de Raadt <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Pete, you propose a waste of time. > > > > Everyone has the source code. Everyone can run it. Everyone can see > > the problems other people report, and the things which are not supported. > > > > Everyone already can tell what needs improving. Everyone has a brain, > > and can come up with their own goals. > > > > If they don't come up with goals, there's nothing we can write which > > will change anything. > > > > Finally, not everyone has time. It would not be time spent well making > > lists for other people who may or may not perform. > > > > > Would the devs consider compiling a list of specific improvements they'd > > like > > > to see volunteer'd upon this summer? I'd love to help especially if it > > was a > > > group effort/friendly competition. > > > > > > ________________________________________ > > > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Bob > > Beck > > > <[email protected]> > > > Sent: April 2, 2017 10:16:21 PM > > > To: Luke Small > > > Cc: openbsd-misc > > > Subject: Re: Why isn't OpenBSD in Google Summer of Code 2017?... > > > > > > We tried it for two years, it was too much effort on the part of the > > > foundation organizers mentors to deal with the bureaucracy involved, and > > we > > > didn't really see enough > > > return in terms of new developers to the project, which, frankly being > > > selfish on OpenBSD's part is the only reason for us to do it. > > > > > > Both Ken Westerback and I organized our end of it and dealt with the > > google > > > paperwork the two years we did it, Neither of us is willing to do it > > again, > > > and while I won't > > > directly speak for Ken, I would not support us spending effort on this > > when > > > there are lots of other things to do.. It just doesn't have the benefit > > for > > > OpenBSD, especially > > > in light of the effort of the volunteers necessary to participate. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 8:54 AM, Luke Small <[email protected]> wrote:
