I suspect that unless you really know what you are doing, you'll never satisfy the OpenBSD gods. I suspect that there is a good reason that pkg_add was rewritten in perl. I suspect because it may have been written in perl. And just like that a good idea wasn't completely done in another way.
On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 9:55 AM Jacob L. Leifman <jac...@bitwise.net> wrote: > Security and correctness should never be an after-thought. Have you > done any real software development? And have you ever tried to find > your way through cruddy code? 999 times out of 1000 it is less painful > and much more effective to rewrite from scratch. So what's the point of > having that previous iteration? > > On 5 Apr 2017 at 13:10, Luke Small wrote: > > > I imagine there are some projects that need some love that are on the > back > > burner at the moment that could use some hacking; even if it is totally > > redone later by someone that wants to refactor it for privsep and such. > > On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 4:21 PM Theo de Raadt <dera...@openbsd.org> > wrote: > > > > > Pete, you propose a waste of time. > > > > > > Everyone has the source code. Everyone can run it. Everyone can see > > > the problems other people report, and the things which are not > supported. > > > > > > Everyone already can tell what needs improving. Everyone has a brain, > > > and can come up with their own goals. > > > > > > If they don't come up with goals, there's nothing we can write which > > > will change anything. > > > > > > Finally, not everyone has time. It would not be time spent well making > > > lists for other people who may or may not perform. > > > > > > > Would the devs consider compiling a list of specific improvements > they'd > > > like > > > > to see volunteer'd upon this summer? I'd love to help especially if > it > > > was a > > > > group effort/friendly competition. > > > > > > > > ________________________________________ > > > > From: owner-m...@openbsd.org <owner-m...@openbsd.org> on behalf of > Bob > > > Beck > > > > <b...@obtuse.com> > > > > Sent: April 2, 2017 10:16:21 PM > > > > To: Luke Small > > > > Cc: openbsd-misc > > > > Subject: Re: Why isn't OpenBSD in Google Summer of Code 2017?... > > > > > > > > We tried it for two years, it was too much effort on the part of the > > > > foundation organizers mentors to deal with the bureaucracy involved, > and > > > we > > > > didn't really see enough > > > > return in terms of new developers to the project, which, frankly > being > > > > selfish on OpenBSD's part is the only reason for us to do it. > > > > > > > > Both Ken Westerback and I organized our end of it and dealt with the > > > google > > > > paperwork the two years we did it, Neither of us is willing to do it > > > again, > > > > and while I won't > > > > directly speak for Ken, I would not support us spending effort on > this > > > when > > > > there are lots of other things to do.. It just doesn't have the > benefit > > > for > > > > OpenBSD, especially > > > > in light of the effort of the volunteers necessary to participate. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 8:54 AM, Luke Small <lukensm...@gmail.com> > wrote: