I suspect that unless you really know what you are doing, you'll never
satisfy
the OpenBSD gods. I suspect that there is a good reason that pkg_add was
rewritten in perl. I suspect because it may have been written in perl. And
just like that a
good idea wasn't completely done in another way.

On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 9:55 AM Jacob L. Leifman <jac...@bitwise.net> wrote:

> Security and correctness should never be an after-thought. Have you
> done any real software development? And have you ever tried to find
> your way through cruddy code? 999 times out of 1000 it is less painful
> and much more effective to rewrite from scratch. So what's the point of
> having that previous iteration?
>
> On 5 Apr 2017 at 13:10, Luke Small wrote:
>
> > I imagine there are some projects that need some love that are on the
> back
> > burner at the moment that could use some hacking; even if it is totally
> > redone later by someone that wants to refactor it for privsep and such.
> > On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 4:21 PM Theo de Raadt <dera...@openbsd.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Pete, you propose a waste of time.
> > >
> > > Everyone has the source code.  Everyone can run it.  Everyone can see
> > > the problems other people report, and the things which are not
> supported.
> > >
> > > Everyone already can tell what needs improving.  Everyone has a brain,
> > > and can come up with their own goals.
> > >
> > > If they don't come up with goals, there's nothing we can write which
> > > will change anything.
> > >
> > > Finally, not everyone has time.  It would not be time spent well making
> > > lists for other people who may or may not perform.
> > >
> > > > Would the devs consider compiling a list of specific improvements
> they'd
> > > like
> > > > to see volunteer'd upon this summer? I'd love to help especially if
> it
> > > was a
> > > > group effort/friendly competition.
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________________
> > > > From: owner-m...@openbsd.org <owner-m...@openbsd.org> on behalf of
> Bob
> > > Beck
> > > > <b...@obtuse.com>
> > > > Sent: April 2, 2017 10:16:21 PM
> > > > To: Luke Small
> > > > Cc: openbsd-misc
> > > > Subject: Re: Why isn't OpenBSD in Google Summer of Code 2017?...
> > > >
> > > > We tried it for two years, it was too much effort on the part of the
> > > > foundation organizers mentors to deal with the bureaucracy involved,
> and
> > > we
> > > > didn't really see enough
> > > > return in terms of new developers to the project, which, frankly
> being
> > > > selfish on OpenBSD's part is the only reason for us to do it.
> > > >
> > > > Both Ken Westerback and I organized our end of it and dealt with the
> > > google
> > > > paperwork the two years we did it, Neither of us is willing to do it
> > > again,
> > > > and while I won't
> > > > directly speak for Ken, I would not support us spending effort on
> this
> > > when
> > > > there are lots of other things to do.. It just doesn't have the
> benefit
> > > for
> > > > OpenBSD, especially
> > > > in light of the effort of the volunteers necessary to participate.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 8:54 AM, Luke Small <lukensm...@gmail.com>
> wrote:

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