On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 12:17 AM, Jay Williams <[email protected]> wrote: > As a new user to OpenBSD, who is trying to learn as much as I can, seeing a > message like this is very disheartening. OpenBSD's security focus and passion > for clean, minimal and secure code is something that the world definitely > needs. > > Despite the worldwide trend, especially here in the USA, I hope we can find > ways to get along and work together toward common goals, rather than be > divided > against ourselves. > > Best of luck on your new endeavor! > > -- > Jay Williams > >> On Nov 28, 2017, at 4:43 PM, [email protected] wrote: >> >> Haai, >> >> I think it's about time I write this. >> >> I am De Zeurkous. I used the nick 'schaafuit' (originally devised for a >> prank elsewhere) in an attempt not to let past preconceptions (for those >> who don't know, I have a somewhat bad history with the NetBSD project) >> rule the present. The story about using my bf's e-mail address is true, >> however; the only act of deception was the assumption of another nick. >> >> Despite ongoing personal problems (which are not at all relevant here), >> I extended my UNIX experience considerably since 2007 (the year of the >> NetBSD trouble). Things have settled considerably for me since then, so >> I suggest that we let the past be the past and focus on what has been >> happening recently. >> >> I admit to having some troll blood in my veins. However, I have been >> here to contribute to OpenBSD discussion and have found myself genuinely >> distraught the many times it descended into outright flamage. If that >> makes me too soft material for OpenBSD, as Theo at least once implied, >> well, so be it. >> >> Now that is out of the way, I can get to the point. >> >> In all honesty, I have come to the sad conclusion that the various BSD >> projects, with their leaders being full of entitlement, don't really >> appreciate what UNIX is all about (nevermind that gnu weenies are even >> worse in this regard). >> >> As dmr often pointed out (though perhaps not quite in the terms that I >> will use here), UNIX is about community. I'd even argue that early UNIX >> sites were like families, anticipating each other's needs and building >> upon individual strenghts to achieve something that was not just >> technically adequate, but something to be proud of. Unfortunately, I can >> no longer verify this with dmr, but I'd imagine that UNIX did not just >> feel familiar, but like something shared and even homely. >> >> Unfortunately, UNIX development seems to have become profoundly >> seperated from UNIX use. Whether related or not, it also appears to have >> become a bare battle of egos, something that is quite alien to me, and >> to UNIX itself as well. >> >> I chose OpenBSD because of its somewhat desirable technical properties, >> and I had hoped to be able to contribute. Alas, I am forced to concede >> that for me this is not possible, as I appear to have quite different >> goals (and a very different mindset) from its principal contributors, >> despite my profound appreciation for the project's focus on security. >> >> Now, by this point, you might suspect that I have some alternative in >> mind, and possibly in development; this is indeed the case. You might >> also suspect that I'm going to plug it here; however, I won't. >> >> Since I have no particular desire to be a disruptive force to anyone, >> I will leave you folks to your project. >> >> And me to mine =) >> >> Best of luck and greetings, >> >> Baai, >> >> --zeurkous. >> >> P.S.: attached is a main(3) header file and manual page, as a little... >> 'going-away present'. >> >> -- >> Friggin' Machines!<main.tar.gz> >
I know I'm just adding to the fucking noise right now, but I for one am just glad a trollish person's gone and there will be less noise (hopefully) from now on. Until the next one shows up... -- :wq!
