Fri, 18 May 2018 02:47:29 +0200 Ingo Schwarze <schwa...@usta.de>
> Hi Aner,
>
> Aner Perez wrote on Thu, May 17, 2018 at 06:32:44PM -0400:
> > On 05/17/2018 05:22 PM, x...@dr.com wrote:
> >> "Ingo Schwarze" <schwa...@usta.de> wrote:
>
> >>> Absolutely not.
> >>> Mandoc output is not optimized for any device.
> >>>
> >>> Which elements or rules in the current HTML or CSS code
> >>> make you think it is optimized or it discriminates against
> >>> any device?
>
> >> I don't know which element or rule is the problem, however
> >> if I delete mandoc.css the text does fill the screen.
> >>
> >> I understand that what I am trying to do is not supported,
> >> so I'll do something else instead.
>
> > First non-comment line of mandoc.css says:
> >
> > html { max-width: 100ex; }
> >
> > Removing this line allows the use of the full browser width.
>
> That is a very useful bit of information.
> Thanks for investigating and reporting it.
>
> For testing purposes, i removed that line from
> https://man.openbsd.org/mandoc.css
>
> xcv@, could you check with your phone whether this solves
> your original issue?
>
> > I'm sure that it was put there for a reason
> > (maybe to approximate the width of a terminal?).
>
> Correct. The original reason was that for -T ascii and -T utf8
> output, the default is -O width=78. The reason for that is that
> it's conventional wisom in typography that readability of text
Hi Ingo, misc@ readers,
For younger UNIX users, the real reason is technical limits of hardware then.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punched_card#IBM_80-column_punched_card_format_and_character_codes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Characters_per_line#History
People tend to forget quickly historic evolution is the only reason there is.
Kind regards,
Anton Lazarov
> suffers with excessive column width - even though some recent
> research raises doubts whether that is really true. Either way,
> people tend to feel strongly about it.
>
> I must say i never particularly liked that line in the CSS file.
> It always felt like fiddling with details that it might be better
> not to touch, given that display devices running browsers differ
> more than terminal emulators. And here we are with a suspicion
> that it actually causes accessibility issues, even if the suspicion
> is still unconfirmed...
>
> Depending on the feedback i get here with respect to how
> https://man.openbsd.org/
> now looks, i shall consider deleting the offending line for good.
>
> In general, i like the idea of making things better by *removing*
> harmful tweaks rather than adding new goo...
>
> Yours,
> Ingo
>
