Hi Ulf, ULF wrote on Tue, May 14, 2019 at 10:07:46AM +0200:
> On a mac, on a recent gnome, on a kde, etc. it's easier for a user to keep > track of multiple jobs without thinking about the OS, but rather thinking > about contents. [...] > In 2019, doing all of the above with fvwm, twm, (whatever-tiny)wm not only > feels awkward, but also time consuming and less flexible. The argument that > one just has to type "command &" is not as valid as just clicking an icon > when one of your hands is busy holding the phone or a document. That's entirely a matter of taste. I waste time whenever i have to select anything from any kind of menu, select any icon from any kind of iconbox or desktop background, select any file or directory from any file selection dialogue, or have to click any icon in any dialogue box. I prefer typing commands and use as little menus, clickable icons, selection lists, and dialogue boxes as possible because it is faster, simpler, and requires less looking at the screen. It is also scriptable/programmable, which is the main strength of using computers in the first place. Then again, if you like GUIs as a matter of personal taste, you are certainly welcome to use them. Many people like GUIs (even though i have a hard time understanding why), and that's why many of our developers focus on maintaining software like Gnome and KDE for OpenBSD. But please don't call it a "fact" that GUIs are absolutely better than CLIs. Even for image and video processing, i vastly prefer CLIs over GUIs wherever possible because it is faster and more precise for me. > And, btw, let's say it: fvwm looks like 70s/80s, it's full of > charm for retrocomputing but it's pretty ugly to see in 2019. I couldn't care less. "Ugly" is purely personal taste, and fashion is purely a waste of time and resources, benefiting no one but those who define what the fashion of the year is and making money from selling new products to the public because last year's products now suddenly look old-fashioned for no good reason. > And many people prefer just right clicking on a picture to change > background I would never want to change a background. There is simply no point to that. When i'm working, almost none of the background is visible anyway. Why would i waste screen real estate? And even if there is some screen space i don't currently need, by definition, it doesn't matter how it looks like. > rather than finding which config file they gotta change and then > change it. Because config files are good, but total lack of > automatization for basic activies is just time consuming, Automation is precisely the main advantage of CLIs over GUIs. That is not even a personal preference, but that is a fact for a change. Yours, Ingo
