Well, I think you should accept that this community features its own dogmas, like no zfs/hammerfs/ext4/xfs, bsd.rd smallest possible, no bluetooth, a prehistoric wm in base, and so on. Either you understand it or quit, because they won't change their minds :(
I also asked for vi years ago and wasn't the first. With vax recently dead, hppa64 dead and maybe hppa following as well as alpha, i386 which cannot run a decent modern web browser anymore on most supported hw, the distro is slowly retiring from retrocomputing hardware, so the need to compress bsd.rd till death is becoming day by day less relevant. Nevertheless they have all rights to have their tastes as this is their playground, so make your platform choice wisely before it comes to disaster recovery scenarios. Using openbsd means choosing security and some cutting edge products (e.g. pf, openssh, etc.), but at the same time coping with the mindset of the devs, syntaxes changing over time, scarce support from 3rd parts (e.g. backup software when running as VM) and need to throw lotsa your time in the thing without specific guarantees that you'll be able to get what you need. Personally, having to do many things during the week - and needing products that "just work" - I am almost not using it in production anymore, but keeping it as a hobby on some hardware of mine because, after all, it's still a great piece of software. If you think ed should be buried down under 10m, like I do, make your own decisions and stop trying to convince people who don't want to be convinced. Regards Il sab 12 mar 2022, 20:14 <i...@tutanota.com> ha scritto: > > Mar 12, 2022, 17:21 by i...@darwinsys.com: > > >> Could we please get vi into base? Even the most basic version would do. > >> > > > > um, vi has been in base for years. > > > > It has not been in the install media, which are chronically short out of > room. > > I would not advise you to hold your breath for vi to appear there in the > next week or so. > > > > It doesn't take that long to learn ed from the "bottom line" of vi, > > and the man pages are online if you have another computer (or even a > phone) with > > internet access. Learn it in the good times, for use in the bad. > > > I am sorry, I meant on the install media. > > I search the list for other discussions about this and found the answer by > Theo: > > https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=157319297226209&w=2 > > > Why does the ramdisk not include /usr/bin/vi by default? To date, > > it is the only UNIX-like environment I have ever seen without some > > form of vi. > > Theo's answer: "For the same reasons it doesn't contain a web browser:Not > required, and besides that far too large." > > That is ridicules! > > ed is for teleprinters, a monitor based editor is very much required. > Fiddling around with configuration files with ed is like being tied up with > your hands and feet behind your back being told to eat a pizza from the > floor! > > Out of room? What does that even mean? Are you still using floppy disks!? > > install70.img is 664M and the install70.iso is 529M, I believe vi takes up > 359K, surely > there is room. > > Double sigh! > >
