On Sun, Nov 27, 2022 at 12:08 PM James Johnson <mytraddr...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thank you for this interesting perspective.
>
> Combined with the previous advice, I am convinced. I will not try to have
> the machine sleep, or even try to put the drives in spun down. From what
> you guys are saying, it seems doing so would be over-engineering.
>
> What are your thoughts regarding reboots? Should I do a daily, weekly,
> monthly reboot?
>
>
> > On 27 Nov 2022, at 20:00, Bodie <bo...@bodie.cz> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On 27.11.2022 10:37, James Johnson wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >> OpenBSD is amazing. But I need help in configuring it correctly as a
> >> remote server, rarely used.
> >> The main thing I am trying to do is to make it sleep every now and
> >> then to protect resources. I am very flexible on how to do this, but
> >> have been unable to do so.
> >> Here's what I tried :
> >> 1) Make it sleep and wake up when woken up remotely
> >> I investigated Wake On Lan, which I enabled via ifconfig. However,
> >> this system is deployed remotely, and I have no access to other
> >> computers on the LAN, so I am unable to make this work.
> >> 2) Make it sleep for a few hours and then wake up
> >> After 3hours+ of research in man pages and the internet, I have not
> >> seen any solution for that.
> >> 3) hard drives Spin down, CPU lower freq
> >> I have been able to lower the CPU speed by running `apm -L`.
> >> I haven't been able to spin down the hard drives.
> >> How important is it to manually send a command to spin down the unused
> >> harddrives? Will it be down by the system automatically?
> >> I am trying to get info on the drives from the system but `atactl sd0
> >> checkpower ` always shows `standby` even after I have just written on
> >> the disk. I understand this does not work because my drives are SCSI
> >> and not ATA.
> >> I read the man page for scsi, and I see the command to spin down hard
> >> drives : `scsi -f /dev/rsd2c -c "1b 0 0 0 0 0"`
> >> However, I see no command to spin them back up. Is it automatic?
> >> How can I request information on the spin state of the drive. I am
> >> just a little worried about starting to send low levels instructions
> >> to the hard drive, with little understanding of it. Is it safe to send
> >> this command?
> >> Thanks all !
> >> PS : dmesg : I cannot share the full dmesg for security reasons, but
> >> it is a fairly standard i386 machine, with 2 drives mounted as SCSI.
> >
> > As already pointed out by others. Don't do that ;-) Unless you explain
> > why you need to do that (I'm sure it is possible without disclosing much)
> >
> > I build systems running for eg. 12 years, amd64 architecture, SATA disks,
> > DDR RAM and so on. Serving number of virtual machines with constantly
> > higher number of utilizations and in dozens of them only 2 problems
> > during those years - battery for internal RAID run out :-)
> >
> > Saw systems which were running for over 30 years and nothing wrong with
> > them.
> >
> > Can't talk about electricity as those are basically underground cities
> > and there are different problems then if CPU is running 3 or 1GHz ;-)
> >
> > Sounds like maybe some IoT solution, but then go for ARM or use virtual
> > machine in eg. OpenBSD Amsterdam or you really need compute power on
> > demand then go for free options in eg. Azure (12 months free basic Linux)
> > or Oracle Cloud Infrastructure or whatever else you find fit.
> >
> > Either it is so important, need to be physically under your control and
> > then small differences in electricity does not matter or solutions above
> > are perfectly fine for your needs.
> >
> > Just one hint. No matter if own machine or something rented you want that
> > machine to be worth the money that means to do something on it and not
> > have it shut down ;-)
>
>

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